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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I pretty much live in WSL2 at work. While it makes Windows tolerable, it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop.

> it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop I use "a full linux desktop" at work (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) and the desktop UI bugs and limitations are a nightmare. Give me Windows and WSL any day in comparison. At least there I know that basic stuff like clipboard and screen sharing/capture always works flawlessly, and windows don't magically get stuck to one aspect ratio and nost wasting my time trying to goog…

I’ve never had problems with the clipboard or sharing. Unfortunately it sounds like you should use X for a few more years if you have no tolerance for issues.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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> it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop I use "a full linux desktop" at work (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) and the desktop UI bugs and limitations are a nightmare. Give me Windows and WSL any day in comparison. At least there I know that basic stuff like clipboard and screen sharing/capture always works flawlessly, and windows don't magically get stuck to one aspect ratio and nost wasting my time trying to goog…

I’ve never had problems with the clipboard or sharing. Unfortunately it sounds like you should use X for a few more years if you have no tolerance for issues.

Yes, X11 has virtually no bugs, but switching to X11 messes up touch pad gestures and gives me nauseating screen tearing when scrolling content, especially on my portrait oriented monitor. And no amount of googling command line incantations for xorg.conf or 20-intel.conf has fixed it (plus, a lot of the suggested answers were straight up wrong and would have bricked my display output if I just copied them from SO without knowing some Linux display driver basics), so back to Wayland and clipboard and screen capture/sharing issues.

This is in now way a good user experience.

Windows still beats Ubuntu hands down for me in terms of having less annoying issues that kill my productivity.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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> it's not even close to as good as a full Linux desktop I use "a full linux desktop" at work (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) and the desktop UI bugs and limitations are a nightmare. Give me Windows and WSL any day in comparison. At least there I know that basic stuff like clipboard and screen sharing/capture always works flawlessly, and windows don't magically get stuck to one aspect ratio and nost wasting my time trying to goog…

It amazes me how much mind share Ubuntu still has with people. A lot of the Linux community has left Ubuntu over the past 5 years, especially since the Snaps were added. LinuxMint is a vastly better experience today because it's focused on being the best for desktop users, while Ubuntu isn't any more.

>It amazes me how much mind share Ubuntu still has with people. A lot of the Linux community has left Ubuntu over the past 5 years, especially since the Snaps were added.

Not people, Ubtunu is what my company's IT departament provides everyone in the backend team use on our managed ThinkPads. I could protest, nuke it and spend time switching to Mint or something else based on 22.04 LTS that IT could also manage, but then I'm the one on the hook for any issues that arise with that one, and let's face it, it's Linux we're talking, no distro is ever bug free, they all show some jank once the honeymoon period is over depending on your hardware and software use cases.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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When was the last time you tried Linux? I just replaced my entire computer (CPU, motherboard, GPU, etc) and my Debian (bookworm) installation booted with zero issues. No need to reinstall anything. I certainly remember fighting with xorg.conf settings, graphics drivers, and kernel modules in the past. I haven't had to deal with troubles like that in nearly 10 years though.

I was using plain Ubuntu around 2020. Upgraded from an ancient GeForce to a pretty standard AMD graphics card and it totally wrecked my installation. While debugging in the command line, my screen was constantly flickering. Headache inducing. Then while trying to reinstall Ubuntu, I accidentally messed up my windows installation. It took a weekend to get everything back to normal, and it just wasn't worth it at all.

A live usb can have you back up and running in perhaps 30 mins. Haven’t had to suffer a broken install since live cds invented at the turn of the century.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I don't think businesses care too much. LTSC is for when you need the system to not change over time, but still get some security updates, not simply business use - for that, there's the Enterprise edition of course.

Annoyingly LTSC costs around $300ish for the typical end user and has an inordinate amount of hoops just to buy it... makes it difficult to recommend to family so I curse them with Arch instead.

I personally run my own activation server (https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd), and just point the Windows installation there. Or you can use one of the many servers that are floating around the internet. Either way, it's a bit annoying unfortunately.

Also, my country's second hand electronics market has LTSC keys for sale for like $25. That might be worth looking into.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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1. EDLIN wasn't much different from the text editor I used on the PDP-10 just a few years earlier. Lots of people used EDLIN and saw no need for another. Also, Netscape was an extremely buggy browser - it crashed all the time. Explorer was far more reliable. It was better . 2. If it was doing essential OS tasks, then it was part of the operating system.

Maybe IE was better for a while. But for a long time it wasn't, and it wasn't allowed to stand by itself. That was the problem. It was the de facto standard, not by being good, but by being pushed via Windows. I hope we can agree a text editor is different that a browser, word processor, or an IDE (at least nowadays). Nobody complains that Microsoft ships Nodepad or Paint, because they are the bare minimum and avoida…

> "Regarding 2, this is unbelievably naive. For such an important product, of course Microsoft would find a way to make it do "essential" OS tasks."

The Start Menu in Windows 10/11 is HTML/CSS. It's not a matter of "finding ways" to make it do things, HTML was pushed as being the document description / display technology, why wouldn't Microsoft use it for Explorer folder views and Active Desktop? Why shouldn't they be allowed to? You could embed web pages in the Win98 desktop background, that's the kind of embedded document thing people were researching and crowing about in the 60s and 70s in alternative OS's. It's the kind of thing users wanted with rainmeter and SysInternals' bginfo. IIRC you could edit the CSS and change the theme of Explorer folder views, give them new colours and background images.

> "Nobody complains that Microsoft ships Nodepad or Paint, because they are the bare minimum and avoidable."

Nobody complains that Microsoft shipped the best CSharp compiler csc.exe (before .Net span off into its own thing), and didn't ship or encourage Mono or Xamarin compilers. Or PowerShell and not Perl. Why don't those things attract the interests of the courts? And now they can ship Edge, and that's apparently fine now?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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I don't think businesses care too much. LTSC is for when you need the system to not change over time, but still get some security updates, not simply business use - for that, there's the Enterprise edition of course.

Annoyingly LTSC costs around $300ish for the typical end user and has an inordinate amount of hoops just to buy it... makes it difficult to recommend to family so I curse them with Arch instead.

If what your need is LTSC, why is Arch rolling update fine? What about RHEL clone or Debian for stability?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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For all those who stay on Windows only for games, google for vfio it's a virtual machine with Windows for games Uses a dedicated graphics card, has like 3% cost. Bonus is you don't have to care about updates and viruses/trojans. Disk C with OS is just a raw file, that you can copy at will.

What is the cost when it comes to disk I/O? I found the overhead to be significant in VMs. Personal impression, no metrics. I am also talking about standard OS-based VMs where the image is a file, not hypervisors. It is becoming more and more relevant now that we have ridiculously fast SSDs and games take advantage of them. It was, after all, a big selling point of the PS5.

you can pass-through a whole additional nvme ssd if you find a normal "raw file as partition" on your ssd isn't enough for you.

PS use virtio driver for a "raw file disk" for best speed. PPS Basically qemu-kvm/libvirt on Linux is a go-to solution for games.

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