I bought a used car from Carvana before the pandemic, and this is pretty sad news to me because after that purchase I vowed that all my future cars would come from Carvana. The buying experience was simply excellent for me, and I couldn't be happier with the car I bought. I figured I probably could have gotten a comparable deal slightly cheaper somewhere else, but I would have wasted a ton of time, and still would ha…
As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand to win big
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#62I'm not surprised. I've heard multiple stories from multiple people about Carvana just forgot to collect money from them. They bought a used car, the car showed up, and Carvana just never took the money from them beyond the deposit. This is not only bad for Carvana and their cash flow, but bad for the buyer too, who just has to keep the money sitting there forever in case Carvana fixes the glitch and tries to transfe…
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Drivetime is a privately held subprime used dealer group that lists their inventory on Carvana, which is a public spinoff of Drivetime. The CEO of Carvana is the son of the Drivetime owner. Plenty of room to launder profits via wholesale prices.
This seems like wild speculation.
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#64Re: As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand to win big
#65Bummer, buying from a dealer always feels bad. Would be great if a company could figure out a digital off the shelf shopping experience. The last car buying experience I had the brick and mortar dealerships listed so many bait cars that online shopping was scammy/pointless.
Maybe this episode - https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/02/12/171814201/epis...
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#66I bought a used car from Carvana before the pandemic, and this is pretty sad news to me because after that purchase I vowed that all my future cars would come from Carvana. The buying experience was simply excellent for me, and I couldn't be happier with the car I bought. I figured I probably could have gotten a comparable deal slightly cheaper somewhere else, but I would have wasted a ton of time, and still would ha…
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#67The problem seems to be that they sold too many cars with a negative margin. I've heard stories of people selling their cars sight unseen to Carvana for above market value and it seems they were left holding too many cars as the second hand car market normalized and prices decreased. Like a lot of VC funded companies, they were blinded to market realities by the cash each funding round produced. If they'd had to purc…
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not GP, but the Tundra is enormous compared to a Tacoma for someone coming from a car and not used to a full-size. I was also considering a Tundra since the model refresh, but even compared to our current truck (Land Cruiser) the Tundra felt noticeably larger and less maneuverable.
Is the Tundra Hybrid even available yet? I love my 2007 but that thirsty V8 gets awful gas mileage.
2007 Toyota Highlander hybrid MPG: ~28mpg. Same vintage year prius mileage: a bit shy of twice that.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why'd you go for the Taco over a Tundra?
A lot of people want a pickup but don't need a full size truck. Tacoma fills this niche - probably more people that have big pickups would have all their needs met with a tacoma sized one. Though it feels like all trucks have scaled up massively over the past 20 years and a 2020 tacoma is probably as big as a 2000 F150.
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#70But buying a car from a dealer remains horrible