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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by chii »

gigel82 wrote: post #401
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

I've never had that happen to me in 20+ years of using and updating Windows. I suspected it's an urban legend but when a friend told me they experienced it with a feature update in Windows 11 I inquired further: It turns out during the first startup after a feature update in Windows 11 (and 10) they sometimes show a bunch of new prompts, one of which is a very vague text with a big (default) "Recommended Settings" an…

describing it as forced is certainly technically wrong, but the results is no different. MS should not have done it, and the fact that they used a dark pattern to achieve it is not better than forcefully doing it!

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by layer8 »

maxbaines wrote: post #422
layer8 wrote: post #286

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You can still use Windows 11 with just a local account, see for example https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-mi... .

Yes you can however every so often I see the let’s finish setup screen will appear to prompt you, again you can continue without an account and then be nagged again.

Go to the Notifications page in Settings and untick “Offer Suggestions on How I Can Set Up My Device”.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by rychco »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

My transition to 11 has been mostly painless. Some weirdness I've experienced so far is a handful of default applications being changed (not Edge, surprisingly enough) and that since my default PDF reader is Okular all the icons for .pdf files are now a blank white rectangles instead of the nice white/blue okular icons they used to be. To be fair though, this could be some incompatibility with icon formats/sizes or something... I haven't looked into it.

My only real annoyance so far is that all my old context menu items are now tucked away into an additional context menu, such that I now have to right-click -> "Show more options" -> old context menu. A bit of an odd choice.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by npteljes »

Maxburn wrote: post #354
npteljes wrote: post #325

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Don't bother with cleaning script, they can fuck things up, and the benefit is questionable, as it's a whack-a-mole basically. Windows 11 is not a hard requirement, and I don't think it will be in the coming few years, so I went with Windows 10 LTSC. Lots of useless crap is cut from it, so no Cortana, no Store, no Edge even, and no feature updates. There are security updates however! So it's a nice, stable, useful ed…

Real businesses will not put up with this nonsense and that's why LTSC exists. I'm also wondering if you can just run server editions.

I don't think businesses care too much. LTSC is for when you need the system to not change over time, but still get some security updates, not simply business use - for that, there's the Enterprise edition of course.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by PostOnce »

cageface wrote: post #423
PostOnce wrote: post #404

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Ah yes, you can also use Mac for most. I meant, rather, that I don't think any of the Linux audio production stuff is great. Reaper and Waveform are good, Ardour is not yet (in my opinion, it's buggy and requires too much configuration that is not required in other software, but they'll get there). The big-name software is genuinely better than what is available on Linux and is worth using, and the latency introduced…

Bitwig is available on Linux now and works great in my experience. I actually prefer it to Ableton anyway.

I thought I had tried all the linux DAWs, but I haven't tried Bitwig; thanks for mentioning it, I'll try it out this week.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by causality0 »

vanous wrote: post #235
binarycrusader wrote: post #218

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Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. There are multiple suites of tests and processes that exist to try to ensure updates preserve user data and preferences but clearly something went wrong here. I’m just a developer, not a spokesperson, but I want to ensure that this is investigated if possible. If you file a bug in feedback hub under the Windows Update category it…

> Hey, sorry that happened, it should have preserved all of the default applications, etc. Thanks for your apology. I can imagine this could happen to some random unknown software team but not to the supposed leader of the desktop. I believe this is honest apology but I am not sure I can trust that the issue was a bug and not a feature.

Yeah considering the absolute pissbaby tantrum Windows 10/11 throws when you go to change the default browser in the first place there's effectively no difference.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Zardoz84 »

naiveai wrote: post #145
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65

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On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Until and unless Microsoft Office products are on Linux natively and are supported by Microsoft, Linux will never be a mainstream operating system. And that's never going to happen.

There isn't any more a "native" office. Now it's a web app -> Office 365

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Zardoz84 »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #353
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65

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On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Unlikey. PC gamers don't care if they're running Windows or Linux, they just want the top 10 games to run. Linux can't even do that. And the business world will never switch to Linux.

Sorry, but does it.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by landemva »

chii wrote: post #446
HeckFeck wrote: post #374

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No, but pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. The Windows 98-7 era made me like the system and aspire to be a developer for it. I remember wanting to make my own window! Now it is simply a hostile wasteland that I regard with suspicion and resentment. There is no love for it left. I now use Linux and bear with OSX when I need to. Windows 8, but especially 10, made a hardcore Unix freak ou…

> pissing off people who love computers the most is a terrible idea. back when balmer jumped up and down in a presentation yelling "developers, developers, developers", they were still good (despite balmer's terrible leadership). I think they're just losing the battle for mindshare now. Users would more easily move to macs, if they're a casual consumer of tech, and linux if they're more hardcore. Windows has no raiso…

Mindshare and count of installed devices is now the phone. MS lost the phone battle a few years ago.
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