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Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by qaq »

RugnirViking wrote: post #19
yetanotherforg wrote: post #10

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The soviets made a pretty good go of turning a theistic feudal monarchy largely with an economy focused on agriculture into the second biggest industrial power in the world for almost a hundred years. Certainly not perfect, and horrible to live in in many ways, but better at building an economy than a lot of other similarly sized places.

That's pretty bold statement considering USSR collapse was caused by economic weakness. It never was "second biggest industrial power " outside of it's own propaganda.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by RugnirViking »

qaq wrote: post #31
RugnirViking wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The soviets made a pretty good go of turning a theistic feudal monarchy largely with an economy focused on agriculture into the second biggest industrial power in the world for almost a hundred years. Certainly not perfect, and horrible to live in in many ways, but better at building an economy than a lot of other similarly sized places.

That's pretty bold statement considering USSR collapse was caused by economic weakness. It never was "second biggest industrial power " outside of it's own propaganda.

That's true. I feel like there is a bit of both here. Around the 1950s to 1970s, they were capable of some pretty impressive projects, civillian and millitary. Things like mass rollout of power infrastructure, road networks, city construction, the space race, etc. their GDP is today estimated to have been around half that of the US had at the time. Their growth in production numbers for tanks/planes etc throughout ww2 was extrodinary as well. However they hit a real period of stagnation in the 1970s which just got worse and worse over time, i'm not an expert as to exactly why but my guess would be they developed a culture of corruption that continues to plague russia to this day

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by awiesenhofer »

That Welltris screenshot reminds me of another, though younger, great 3D game from an ex-ussr country I played around the early 2000 iirc. It was a 3D version of snake, playing on a cube's surface, looked like something out of the demoscene and had an awesome selfcomposed soundtrack. I think the developer was from Ukraine or Belarus, not sure anymore. Never found it again unfortunately ...

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by qaq »

RugnirViking wrote: post #33
qaq wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty bold statement considering USSR collapse was caused by economic weakness. It never was "second biggest industrial power " outside of it's own propaganda.

That's true. I feel like there is a bit of both here. Around the 1950s to 1970s, they were capable of some pretty impressive projects, civillian and millitary. Things like mass rollout of power infrastructure, road networks, city construction, the space race, etc. their GDP is today estimated to have been around half that of the US had at the time. Their growth in production numbers for tanks/planes etc throughout ww…

USSR spent most of it's GDP on military plus central planing is unworkable system especially with all the idiotic soviet KPI's on top of it.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by batter »

RugnirViking wrote: post #19
yetanotherforg wrote: post #10

[flagged]

The soviets made a pretty good go of turning a theistic feudal monarchy largely with an economy focused on agriculture into the second biggest industrial power in the world for almost a hundred years. Certainly not perfect, and horrible to live in in many ways, but better at building an economy than a lot of other similarly sized places.

'second biggest industrial power' assume this is a joke. Poor quality: anything that was made was so bad, this habit is still alive and even russians hate their own products. Stealing: ancient car designs and engineering is good example. And as you know it never improved. Millions of lives were taken to achieve nonsense goals, people were starved, frozen, deprevated from food. What kind of human you have to be justify that? Well, but it didn't touch you or your family, so it's fine. Lets continue glorifying crazy stuff, we're just engineers, right?

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by shmerl »

qaq wrote: post #30
anotherstalker wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to highlight interesting examples and industries for us unlearned?

Most high end Soviet Nuclear weapons were designed by KB Yuzhnoye and built by Yuzhmash in Dnepr(Dnepropetrovsk).

As well as rocket engines like RD-8.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by qsort »

Waterluvian wrote: post #3

Because of the war against Ukraine, I’ve become more aware of Ukraine’s role in the USSR when reading up on history. One thing I’ve noticed is just how much of the most impressive technological feats came from Ukraine.

The association "USSR = Russians" is part of the systematic attempt by the soviet regime at cultural (and sometimes literal) genocide. The 90th anniversary of the Holodomor was just two weeks ago.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by batter »

RugnirViking wrote: post #33
qaq wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty bold statement considering USSR collapse was caused by economic weakness. It never was "second biggest industrial power " outside of it's own propaganda.

That's true. I feel like there is a bit of both here. Around the 1950s to 1970s, they were capable of some pretty impressive projects, civillian and millitary. Things like mass rollout of power infrastructure, road networks, city construction, the space race, etc. their GDP is today estimated to have been around half that of the US had at the time. Their growth in production numbers for tanks/planes etc throughout ww…

Yeah, just 100k+ of wasted lives on single project only, but engineering worth it, right? https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1980-2/bam/
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