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Post by CWuestefeld »

gernb wrote: post #338
CWuestefeld wrote: post #135

Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps. Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Just to give anecdata on the other side. I too just updated to 11 22H2 because my Oculus Rift S wouldn't run without updated drivers and I thought it best to update windows first. No defaults changed for me. I wonder what the bug is. Note: I'm using Pro, not Home. At the same time windows does drive me nuts with it's darkpartterns. The worst for me on Windows 11 was all the keyboard shortcuts that try to launch MS Of…

I'm the post you're responding to. My install is the Pro edition as well. And the version I'm upgrading from was also W11, completely up to date on patches, I just didn't go to the 22H2 feature update until the GPU issues were fixed.

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Post by maxbaines »

layer8 wrote: post #286
maxbaines wrote: post #19

I say it every time I see similar posts, but these kind of features and being tied to an Ms account has made me leave windows for Linux and MacOS.

You can still use Windows 11 with just a local account, see for example https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-mi... .

Yes you can however every so often I see the let’s finish setup screen will appear to prompt you, again you can continue without an account and then be nagged again.

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Post by cageface »

PostOnce wrote: post #404
steve1977 wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What DAW are you using that is Windows-only?

Ah yes, you can also use Mac for most. I meant, rather, that I don't think any of the Linux audio production stuff is great. Reaper and Waveform are good, Ardour is not yet (in my opinion, it's buggy and requires too much configuration that is not required in other software, but they'll get there). The big-name software is genuinely better than what is available on Linux and is worth using, and the latency introduced…

Bitwig is available on Linux now and works great in my experience. I actually prefer it to Ableton anyway.

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Post by stonogo »

civopsec wrote: post #400
binarycrusader wrote: post #352

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I appreciate that when unexpected outcomes occur it's tempting to vent frustrations and say things in a way intended to influence the feelings of others to validate our own frustrations and feelings. However, as a former colleague of mine (Bryan Cantrill) frequently reminds everyone, empathy is a core engineering value : https://tritondatacenter.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun I completed the second decade of my soft…

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That message is probably a huge factor in his realization that empathy is important.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by maxbaines »

maxbaines wrote: post #19

I say it every time I see similar posts, but these kind of features and being tied to an Ms account has made me leave windows for Linux and MacOS.

For context I used and loved Windows since I was a teenager with Windows 3.1 but for me I just find an OS with such features to jarring for daily use. Also note Mac OS has its problems too. I was so excited for W11 and generally love most of it.

Oh and I run Linux on a Surface Laptop.

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Post by shortcake27 »

alpaca128 wrote: post #86
null_object wrote: post #13

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> It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows I’m genuinely intrigued by which approval dialogs and notifications you find so hostile in MacOS? If it’s SIP or Gatekeeper you’re talking about, there are easily implemented workarounds. Otherwise I really can’t think of any “notifications” from the OS

I got my first Mac a few months ago and there are definitely a few annoying things. Not necessarily (only) popups, just weird error messages, bugs and the system sometimes telling me a jpeg file might be a virus that I may not want to "launch". Though on average I'd say it's a drastically better experience than the current state of Windows.

I’ve been using Mac for 12 years and never seen that dialog about a jpeg being a virus. Are you sure there _isn’t_ anything malicious embedded within the file?

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Post by saratogacx »

bsnnkv wrote: post #258

I maintain a tiling window manager for Windows[1]. It's the only thing still keeping me on Windows right now. I run NixOS on WSL, and I have a separate NixOS desktop partition that I iterate on from time to time. Once I can make my tiling window manager X11-compatible, I think that will be it for me and Windows. The last update totally screwed me to the extent that I had to go into the registry and manually set my us…

While I don't use the tool (I use Windows Power Toys for my tiled window management) I have to give a shout out on the amazing github readme. That is lovingly complete and I wasn't left wondering how any of it worked.

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Post by WalterBright »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #413
WalterBright wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what the difference is between a free text editor is and a free browser included with the OS. Neither are functions of the operating system. Both have other companies providing such functionality.

I can see two obvious differences. 1) the text editor shipped with the OS is extremely basic. It is not competing to be the world's favourite text editor, and is probably required to have a usable OS out of the box. 2) the web browser was essentially a competing platform to the OS itself for many user tasks. To leverage your monopoly on one platform to control another is against anti trust.

1. EDLIN wasn't much different from the text editor I used on the PDP-10 just a few years earlier. Lots of people used EDLIN and saw no need for another. Also, Netscape was an extremely buggy browser - it crashed all the time. Explorer was far more reliable. It was better.

2. If it was doing essential OS tasks, then it was part of the operating system.

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Post by progman32 »

berkes wrote: post #211
progman32 wrote: post #197

Linux/*BSD may still be that awkward friend who sometimes misreads your intentions and causes awkward moments or knocks glasses over, but at least tries to respect you (snapd excepted). Windows these days doesn't seem to respect you. There's a difference in my mind between struggling to make your computer do something (because nobody made it easy yet) and struggling to make your computer do something (because a marke…

As much as I dislike snapd, I don't see how that is a lack of respect. It's just unfinished not ready for production mostly, i'd say.

I see these things as being disrespectful about snapd (happy to be proven wrong):

- apt install firefox and other packages actually install via snap on Ubuntu. My intent was to install via apt. It should prompt me instead of silently using a different tool with different implications. For example, my firefox profile was silently copied to another folder with zero notification, causing issues with my tooling. - they're only now adding the ability to pause updates (an experimental feature!), after aggressively pushing snapd for years. Work arounds included telling the OS the Internet connection is metered, which sounds familiar. https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date#heading--... I feel disrespected when a tool imposes its own schedule on me and fights to enforce it. I appreciate that they added the Hold feature, but I feel the way we got it was due to continual, years long community push back. Reasonable defaults are fine. Let me edit them without fighting me. - proprietary server implementation, only canonical gets to run one or modify behavior. Distros can't run their own. I get that this might reduce fragmentation. To me the disrespect comes from not giving me a choice.

To me it's fine to aggressively push a tech. What I take issue with is the apparent intent to reduce end user control. If my impression is wrong, I'll recant. At least snapd seems to have slowly improved, my nfs mounts actually work in most snap apps now...

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