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Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Dr. Casey Fiesler recently tweeted > The @huggingface GPT detector works very well on ChatGPT-created text. I ran 5 student essays and 5 ChatGPT essays for the same prompt through it, and it was correct every time with >99.9% confidence. How about adding a %human/%GPT statistic to posts and comments?

HN doesn't update anything. That will obviously never happen.

Im sure we will start seeing reddit /twitter bots that reply to users that have high gpt confidence.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #7

How are they going to be banned? Or are we just talking about banning the lame “durr, I asked cGPT and here’s what it said” responses? Those get downvoted anyway because they got boring real fast, especially since cGPT is free and open to all.

Banning on HN is kinda pointless. But I think this is more about preventing/limiting karma gain of an account, potentially posting/commenting limits and similar stuff. I.e. it's more about migating the (assumed negative) effect a few people abusing comment generation could have then it is about punishing people.

Banning is not pointless. Allowing an easy path for farming high karma accounts is a huge issue. It would basically lower the cost of Astroturfing

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #13

Seems like a non problem. If it's a dull comment or just inane it'll get downvoted out of existence. If the bot actually produces something interesting about the topic, what's the problem?

I think it's a capacity problem. Right now, the "system" (legit HN users) have the capacity to deal with dull and inane comments currently provided by dull and inane human commenters. If the dull and inane comments become automated they can arbitrarily increase their number until the system lacks the capacity to deal with them. If there was one or ten bad comments on this thread - no problem. What if there were ten t…

>What if there were ten thousand bad comments?

The thread collapse "[–]" already exists.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Generate a Hacker News comments section discussing whether or not ChatGPT responses should be allowed on the site.

Response from model

User 1: I think allowing ChatGPT responses on Hacker News is a bad idea. This technology is still new, and could be used to create spam comments, or even worse, low-quality content. Plus, it could lead to more automated responses and more automation in general on the site, which I don't think we would want.

User 2: I don't think it's a bad idea at all. ChatGPT was created to help people get meaningful answers to their questions. Allowing it on the site could not only help people get the answers they need, but it could also provide thoughtful responses that we wouldn't normally get from traditional conversations. I think it could be a great way to generate interesting discussions.

User 3: I think ChatGPT comments should be allowed on Hacker News, but with caveats. We'll need to vet the responses before allowing them on the site, and they need to be verified as not being spammy or low quality. That way we can ensure we're still getting quality interactions on the site without needing to worry about potential automated content.

Okay new plan

Every thread should automatically include AI-generated comments at the top and if your comment is already covered you just shouldn't comment.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #38

Generate a Hacker News comments section discussing whether or not ChatGPT responses should be allowed on the site. Response from model User 1: I think allowing ChatGPT responses on Hacker News is a bad idea. This technology is still new, and could be used to create spam comments, or even worse, low-quality content. Plus, it could lead to more automated responses and more automation in general on the site, which I don…

I actually kind of like that idea, but I can also see it quickly devolving into people arguing about if their responses are really equivalent to the AI comments. It's like marking SO questions as duplicate.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #24

The fact that soon the internet will be so flooded with bots that you'll be floating eternally alone in a sea of imposters unless we create some draconian real person ID system is a tragedy so great it's crazy it has not dawned on people yet. I started out loving the net because of the feelings of connection and partly because of the honesty and discussions stemming from at least pseudo anonymity, both silly stuff an…

This has a far easier and less dystopian solution: charge money to access communities, which are smaller and more focused. I find it very unlikely that corporate PR bots will be paying $5 a month each to spam Substack communities, for example.
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