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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

Just played some games on Linux Steam yesterday. It works so smooth. The Steam client is actually buggy at times with a tiling WM, but all the games worked great.. even the oned with Proton.

It's actually amazing how well games work under Proton. Even a significant number of multiplayer titles just work, despite anti-cheat. There's some "random problems" sometimes with some titles, sure... but that's also true on Windows. Interestingly the problematic titles are more or less exactly opposite to Windows - new titles tend to work well on Windows and perhaps have issues on Linux (requiring some specific launch options or Proton version, perhaps graphical glitches). Meanwhile older titles are often problematic on Windows, but are less so on Linux. Might just be my selection bias though.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

It's unclear that Microsoft providing up-to-date guidance on the continued leverage of various professional features included with your Windows license qualifies as "nagging". I would double-check if you actually have experienced this.

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Linux Gaming cannot come fast enough. I'm so ready to uninstall Windows on my only Windows machine which happened to be a gaming computer, however there are just a few games that I want to play from time to time that does not support Linux. For now I can live with Windows 10 which had a workable WSL so I can pretend that windows have a terminal (Some modding needs code!)

I will say myself personally, that after I got my steam deck I haven't turned on my desktop in 6 months. Slowly in the process of converting my windows desktop into a media server. My two laptops are not windows machines. I have't looked at the steam surveys but I hope there's enough users to encourage more publishers to make games linux compatible. I know for me personally, all the games I enjoy are available for li…

Too bad if you're interested in playing Age Of Empires 2 and older titles like Medieval Total War...

There are some concern about graphics performance as well, it seems most titles are not tuned for Linux. Do you have the same graphic performance under linux?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Last week I allowed it to "upgrade" to Win 11 22H2. Part of the upgrade involved silently resetting a heap of my default apps. When the upgrade was done, Firefox was no longer my default browser, it was changed to Edge. Also, the default apps for PDF, JPG, PNG, TXT, MKV, and probably others that I haven't yet discovered, were set to their MS equivalent apps.

Microsoft, this was not a nice thing to do to a user.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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What really kills me about the ad-spam being added to menus everywhere is that eventually they start having problems and drag my computer to its knees. I end up with behaviors where the Start Menu takes several seconds to appear, or a search will stall, and when navigating folders in the File Explorer have very serious and noticeable drag, taking one or two seconds. So far I’ve eventually been able to figure out how…

Install Keypirinha [1] and you don't need the Start menu anymore. [1]: https://keypirinha.com/

I know I don’t need it, but I want to keep using it. And, I lament that the company I already paid money to for an OS license can’t help itself by putting in so many intrusive advertisements and dark patterns on what is supposed to be just an operating system.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #78

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I actually wrote about using Linux as a daily driver for a week for everything, gaming included: https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/a-week-of-linux-instead-of-... In short, Proton is making pretty good progress and anyone can check their own Steam library with ProtonDB, to see how many of the titles they care about are likely to work. Out of the popular mainstream games, around a half will work on Linux, whereas in the…

Games developed on Windows desktops, targeted for Windows desktops, running by translating the Windows API.

Does that ultimately matter? Proton/WINE etc. create a compatibility layer for Windows on Linux, and WSL/Cygwin etc. creates a compatibility layer for Linux on Windows. If one is cheaper and offers less bullshit, the other one is threatened. It's a moat coming down.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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If using Windows is death by a thousand cuts, using Linux is obliteration by ten thousand. Linux has completed 90% of the work, but the last 10% (usability) is a long way away.

I agree but this won't be a "real" problem. It just gonna be put under the rug by most.

No problem has been described.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

This message is 20 years old. Many of us long for the utopia of a Linux desktop that just works, where drivers are up to date and X windows doesn't die due to a yum/apt-get update.

This feels like a future parody thread where someone will make fun of our comments.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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post #10

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Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

On the contrary, Linux is in a good position for the same reason you think it isn't. As the desktop/laptop market shrinks to advanced users, it loses the long tail of users who weren't technically capable enough to switch. At the same time, WINE/proton and even some native ports have vastly improved the gaming scene on Linux, and a decent chunk of non-gaming applications too. Sure, there will always be certain busine…

> Sure, there will always be certain business applications that refuse to work on anything but actual Windows

I disagree with this statement, especially in the case where there's somebody motivated enough to patch Wine to support specific applications.

At the end of the day, Windows applications expect a set of interfaces. As long as those interfaces exist and work as expected, the application will work.

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