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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by GraphenePants »

QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

It's unclear that Microsoft providing up-to-date guidance on the continued leverage of various professional features included with your Windows license qualifies as "nagging". I would double-check if you actually have experienced this.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by clay-dreidels »

secondcoming wrote: post #56
sharikous wrote: post #52

Windows as a curated platform is a lost case at this point. They probably don't make enough money from it to justify investment. Their market is the enterprise world where they have a lock in, plus gamers and PC users who cannot afford a Mac. It shows. Not a problem for me. I have no issue using a bad OS if a company is paying me for using it, and at home I don't use Windows.

I don't use a Mac because they're overpriced. The new CPUs are interesting but the rest of it can go do one.

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by goosedragons »

oriolid wrote: post #79
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dunno man, I’ve been using Linux on the desktop for almost 3 decades. It’s been ok for me :) conversely I can’t stand using windows for more than a few minutes - luckily I don’t have to do this often.

If you're a veteran Linux user, you probably know where to look for config files and how to hack them. Trying to use Linux using GUI only, whichever you choose, is awful. It's like the designers copied the worst ideas from both Windows and MacOS on purpose and then added some of their own.

You don't need to hack config files. The big DEs have GUI settings for pretty much everything macOS or Windows does. The only reason it might not seem like it is tutorial websites where it's easier to post a one line command then screenshots for 7 different GUIs.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by BlargMcLarg »

croes wrote: post #32
BlargMcLarg wrote: post #22

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People keep saying this and then run into minor problems becoming bigger problems because frequently used programs end up being unusable or 3rd class citizen, behind both mobile and Mac users. Unless Linux is braindead easy to use without frustrations, it won't happen. Gamers pay more for lesser ease of access increases.

Yes, people are strange. Every problem on Linux is deal breaker, all the problems on Windows aren't.

It's not 'every problem'. People know Windows. People understand most of Windows. They took years to do so, and they still run into problems. Now you ask them 'switch over to Linux, it doesn't have problem X', without understanding the average person doesn't want to invest the time or effort learning anything more complicated than downloading and installing a random .exe (why do you think phishing and malware are so prevalent in their infantile state?).

This is reinforced by most major apps which eventually become cross-platform starting out treating Linux as a 3rd class citizen. For games, Discord and Parsec come to mind, where the former took years, and the latter still doesn't allow hosting from Linux. Nothing about this reinforces the idea of Linux being easier to use. It's the opposite: it reinforces the mentality that Linux is still two decades behind, regardless what the reality may be.

How many complaints form when YouTube pushes a minor UI or UX change? Now multiply that by a few magnitudes of order. That is the problem we're dealing with, and no amount of chastising or belittling Windows users will change that (in fact, it does the opposite). Did people forget how Apple managed to get a foothold in the market despite their ludicrous prices and dev-unfriendly practices?

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by jacooper »

the__alchemist wrote: post #107
Slighted wrote: post #90

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Microsoft transitioning Windows into a spyware platform filled with advertisements and garbage has been in the making for years at this point. Its absolutely exploitative, greedy, and evil, which is why if you can you should consider switching to a different operating system, like Linux. At the very least you can transition to using Linux for tasks that work on Linux while keeping around Windows for tasks which requi…

Linux is a usability mess, and has been for 20 years. I give a new shot once every other year. Basic flow: - Works out of the box for a basic desktop - Once you start installing drivers and software outside the package manager (Which you'll need to do immediately) and doing C+P CLI workarounds, the system state starts decaying, and things break. - The easiest way to fix things is usually a clean OS reinstall, in the…

What drivers? You don't need to install any drivers if everything works.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by PascLeRasc »

323 wrote: post #98
dole wrote: post #36

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The Weather/News Flash taskbar pretty much does this already. Nothing like an angry red triangle warning to keep me up on the latest celebrity news.

So why don't you switch it? I've put it to show Weather only and I actually like it a lot.

Not who you asked, but my employer won't allow me to change it.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by christophilus »

QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

I know I probably sound like a broken record, but Linux really is quite nice these days. I personally find it miles better than Windows. It is even decent for gaming, thanks to Steam’s work on proton.

So, depending on your use case, you might be able to make the switch without any significant drawbacks.

FWIW, I say this as a former Microsoft employee and heavy promoter of their ecosystem for the first 15 years of my career.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by hyperman1 »

screye wrote: post #30
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

If anything, I think it's the other way around. WSL2 is now so good, that you can get away with not needing Linux at all.

Oh boy. I tried, really. WSL2 is good enough to test things and run docker, but as soon as you try to run X applications, remote in with ssh on your laptop, or try to use full power, the limitations become clear soon.

I tried, on the new job. I've dealt with windows for 6 months, but 2 weeks ago I was sick of it. There is always something not working right. If a computer is a bicycle for the mind, Windows 10 has training wheels and a hysterical helicopter mom screaming 'you're gonna fall!' all the time. Death by a 1000 papercuts. I've reformatted it and run kubuntu now. I will miss excel, and online outlook is not as good as the real thing, but these are sacrifices I am willing to make just to get rid of the whiney drug addict called windows 10.

I'm not going to say Linux is perfect. Plenty of dumb cuts in there too. But at least it treats me with respect, at least the KDE world does.

Ymmv, of course. The job is great enough to let each run his or her preferred OS. As a recent escapee from a hyper standardized environment, I am loving it

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by brundolf »

QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

One of the many reasons I don't use Windows for anything but gaming (and even then, I'm keeping my gaming machine on 10 as long as I can)
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