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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by QuadrupleA »

humanistbot wrote: post #66
QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

> while long-term I and probably a million others are running for the exit, and doing our best to never use Windows, Azure, Outlook, Office etc again. So few companies out there seen to care about their long term reputation. Sadly, the number of people who will actually run for the exit is much, much smaller. People on HN are completely unrepresentative of the general population. I'm pretty sure MS has people who do…

Well we're often the ones who recommend a computer to our parents and grandparents. Or the ones who decide which cloud hosting platform or email service provider to use in our organizations.

People and governments are collectively getting fed up with surveillance capitalism.

One can hope.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by tracerbulletx »

dzdt wrote: post #10
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

I don't think that's really true. Recent trends show the % of desktop/laptop users has normalized and is no longer trending down.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by iansinnott »

I used to run a windows box occasionally for gaming, but have completely replaced it with PopOS. Proton is truly amazing tech IMO. My whole steam library runs as well as it did on windows.

Posting this here for others that might not have known. I could have switched away from windows for gaming long ago but Steam oddly doesn't promote / enable Proton by default.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by encryptluks2 »

humanistbot wrote: post #66
QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

> while long-term I and probably a million others are running for the exit, and doing our best to never use Windows, Azure, Outlook, Office etc again. So few companies out there seen to care about their long term reputation. Sadly, the number of people who will actually run for the exit is much, much smaller. People on HN are completely unrepresentative of the general population. I'm pretty sure MS has people who do…

It took me a while to abandon the Microsoft ecosystem for my own use but I'm so glad that I did. It was a lot of careful considerations though and finding out what was important to me and how other open source projects aligned with those goals.

I'm thinking maybe a site that has a way for users to pick things that matter to them and then recommend an OS and software would be a good idea.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by freeone3000 »

tester756 wrote: post #39
abraxas wrote: post #12

Is there a version of Windows that lets you pay your way out of this bullshit? I may need a Windows machine for work next year and this shit is terrifying. I haven't touched Windows since around 2006 so I'm not familiar with their offerings. They used to have a consumer and a professional edition of Windows in the olden days with the latter being far less annoying.

Wouldn't Pro versions of Windows don't have this mess?

No, they still have these features on Pro and even HPC SKUs of Client. Server and LTSB don't, but are missing other features you might actually want (like DirectX).

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by alpaca128 »

null_object wrote: post #13
BirAdam wrote: post #8

This kind of crap is what made Windows 10 unusable for me. Everything was infuriating. I’m not a fanboy of anything either. Win2K was great. macOS 10.1-10.4 was wonderful. BeOS, RISCOS, IRIX, NeXT, and even DRDOS have warm places in my heart. These days, I use macOS because I find it the least annoying. It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows. Linux and BSD a…

> It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows I’m genuinely intrigued by which approval dialogs and notifications you find so hostile in MacOS? If it’s SIP or Gatekeeper you’re talking about, there are easily implemented workarounds. Otherwise I really can’t think of any “notifications” from the OS

I got my first Mac a few months ago and there are definitely a few annoying things. Not necessarily (only) popups, just weird error messages, bugs and the system sometimes telling me a jpeg file might be a virus that I may not want to "launch". Though on average I'd say it's a drastically better experience than the current state of Windows.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by mhh__ »

dzdt wrote: post #10
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

Soo niche except for 99.99999% of devs

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Scaevolus »

JohnFen wrote: post #45

It's truly amazing how Microsoft insists on making Windows worse with each release. It makes me miss the old odd/even releases where at least half of them weren't bad.

Technically Windows 11 is an even release, since Windows 9 was skipped. I, for one, am looking forward to the revolutionary Taskbar with Titles in Windows 12!

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by oliwarner »

dzdt wrote: post #10
JSRR1991 wrote: post #5

Bad time to be pushing this crap with the Linux desktop wooing the gaming/ power user overlap crowd now that steam deck is on the scene. I have been using Windows my whole life but now I have a PC dedicated to Linux for the 1st time and I'm thinking about seeing one up for my wife, as I'm sure Linux will be perform better on the older laptop I'm considering 'upcycling'. People forget that tech trends often flow outwa…

Yes 2023 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop. (/s) The reality is the computer form factor involving a keyboard is slowly becoming more and more of a niche. Windows has a lock on this niche for business and gaming. For other home use there is strong competition from apple and for education there is strong competition from chromebook. Linux is still not really in the running, sorry.

While there are still use-cases where the traditional laptop/desktop form-factor remains the answer and there are Windows users, Windows getting worse and Linux getting better will continue to see people migrate over.

No, there' won't be an explosion, it's a death by a thousand cuts. The bemused amongst us are wondering why Microsoft is the one holding the knife.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by Slighted »

QuadrupleA wrote: post #53

Sorry for an emotional expletive-laden post here, but this enrages me so much. My computer is my main professional and creative tool, and for MS to do this shit without my permission or control (like it already does with fucking Edge and OneDrive nags every time it installs an update) feels so exploitative, greedy, and evil. And stupid - their execs are chasing myopic short term gains with aggressive stongarm tactics…

Microsoft transitioning Windows into a spyware platform filled with advertisements and garbage has been in the making for years at this point. Its absolutely exploitative, greedy, and evil, which is why if you can you should consider switching to a different operating system, like Linux. At the very least you can transition to using Linux for tasks that work on Linux while keeping around Windows for tasks which require windows, either due to a lack of Linux support or poor performance/stability/etc. All of this assuming you aren't doing this already.
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