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Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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Funnily enough I was just asking chatGPT what it thought about it, so here it goes: >It is unlikely that AI will completely replace programmers. While AI and machine learning technology has advanced significantly in recent years, there are still many tasks that require human creativity and intuition, such as coming up with new ideas, solving complex problems, and making decisions that involve subjective judgement. Ad…

I’ve downvoted this because the question is what the community thinks of the question. This is creating plausible spam.

Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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My take is that it will decrease the "value" of developers by reducing the demand for them. If a company can be 10x more productive it will probably need less developers. if you can do your job 10x faster it will mean your team would less team members. There's no shortage that is not followed by a glut..

> There's no shortage that is not followed by a glut..

There is a shortage of smart humans and has been for a long time. I've never heard of a glut of smart humans in history.

Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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My immediate guess is that these kinds of tools will greatly enlarge the productivity gap between junior and senior developers.

Senior devs will be able (they already are) to generate code, at first boilerplate and gradually more complex code, and effectively work as planners and passive reviewers, in a similar way to how some companies just hire legions of juniors with some architects/seniors guiding and reviewing their work.

The problem with that flow, I think, is that it completely disrupts the junior to senior pipeline. Senior roles might be valued even more than today, but reaching that stage or simply entering the market might become much more difficult.

I feel my career is pretty safe, but I’m not sure about someone joining the industry 5 years from now.

Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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As with all new technology it will change the jobs we do and how we do them. AI seems likely to have a large impact on jobs heavily involving communicating with computers. However is it likely that less people will be communicating with computers as a result; I would say no. Did the shovel make it less likely you would employ someone to dig?

Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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post #26

I don't know how the latest stuff from OpenAI will impract the career of average programmers. But regarding your last question: > how would you try to AI-proof your career? Learn to program from first principles.

This is probably the best adice one cold give ^

Re: Ask HN: Will AI put programmers our of work?

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Almost all the work of programmers is already automated in the form of everything you get via `pip`, `apt get` etc.

A very large part of what remains is the bit which cannot be automated: modelling real world (business) process in terms of the systems of automation which are available.

Programming is a modelling activity which is about phrasing sequences of available actions to represent a process. If AI systems generate code, then programming becomes the sequencing of AI prompts -- which are here then just a more natural language like version of programming.

Even in that world a significant amount of technical skill is required to ensure commands are sequenced correctly, the code is correct, etc.

For "AI" to replace this process it would not only have to be AGI, but also AGI fully embeded in the human social world of the processes were are modelling.

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