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World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by Shugarl »

donatj wrote: post #26

Maybe I am just cynical, but I highly doubt many leaders would actually care about a worker’s death. Most would like have the decorum and PR experience to feign shock, but I doubt you’d get more than an empty “oh that’s terrible“ from most in power. To me the fact that anyone would find this shocking is the most shocking part as it implies people are believing politicians facades.

To be honest, I highly doubt many people actually care about a worker's death, period. They'll be "shocked", then move on to the next bad news

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by rtpg »

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #28
donatj wrote: post #26

Maybe I am just cynical, but I highly doubt many leaders would actually care about a worker’s death. Most would like have the decorum and PR experience to feign shock, but I doubt you’d get more than an empty “oh that’s terrible“ from most in power. To me the fact that anyone would find this shocking is the most shocking part as it implies people are believing politicians facades.

Think as you like but behave like others is the western approach. They would bemoan the loss and be very emotional about it while internally thinking the same thing this guy said. I prefer my leaders to be less fluff.

Maybe you think that, but I’m sure many people have basic human empathy at the end of the day.

Yes statistically many people die on the job in many countries but every one is still a tragedy. You can think that and be running a large organization.

I feel like many conservative thinkers believe that it’s all “fake” and just PR. But human empathy is a real thing.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

rtpg wrote: post #42
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think as you like but behave like others is the western approach. They would bemoan the loss and be very emotional about it while internally thinking the same thing this guy said. I prefer my leaders to be less fluff.

Maybe you think that, but I’m sure many people have basic human empathy at the end of the day. Yes statistically many people die on the job in many countries but every one is still a tragedy. You can think that and be running a large organization. I feel like many conservative thinkers believe that it’s all “fake” and just PR. But human empathy is a real thing.

Look at your leaders. What percentage do you think operate from sincere va feigned or politically beneficial empathy?

Is it a majority? At what level of government do you think it becomes a majority or minority?

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by MikeDelta »

mud_dauber wrote: post #15
m12k wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Even a single preventable death on a job site is one too many. We are doubling down on safety precautions and training to prevent any further workplace hazards. While complete safety is impossible to achieve on a project of this scale, we are using our massive wealth to ensure our construction sites follow international best practices in this area. We value the lives and wellbeing of our workers and will take every…

Or: "Even a single preventable death on a job site is one too many. We have contacted his family, made all the arrangements for a dignified flight home, memorial service and created a financial fund to compensate the family for his loss. It's the least we could do."

And we will do our best to improve safety around the workplace and avoid these deaths, because we value the life of our immigrant workers as much as that of our citizens.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by throwawaylinux »

m12k wrote: post #10

It seems pretty obvious that a totalitarian petrostate, that bribed its way into using a global sports event as a massive PR push, doesn't care. What matters is whether we care that they don't care. What matters is whether we care that our sports institutions are massively corrupt.

What seems pretty obvious is all the globalist institutions, everything from FIFA to the UN Human Rights Council, which are happy to take bribes from unashamedly totalitarian petrostates and worse, don't care.

That's what gets me. Qatar can Qatar in Qatar, but the disgusting, corrupt, hypocritical ruling class who would preach to me and claim to be the "experts" on how I should live my life and to be my moral superiors is what gets me. And they're the ones who really enable and legitimize these regimes too. They're the real evil, and it's high time to put an end to them.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

paulgb wrote: post #39
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think as you like but behave like others is the western approach. They would bemoan the loss and be very emotional about it while internally thinking the same thing this guy said. I prefer my leaders to be less fluff.

What they’re thinking internally isn’t the issue. The statements send a signal to the rest of the organization and impact what gets prioritized. In this case, the signal is “life of workers doesn’t matter”.

You do realize in the us there are thousands of worker deaths. Do we hold a memorial each time?

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by SeanLuke »

yawnr wrote: post #29
simmerup wrote: post #20

Why post something that the majority of us will not be able to read

They posted it because he collapsed and died during extra time at the Argentina Netherlands match the day after he wrote it. Lots of theories and potential explanations for what actually happened as he’s been talking about not feeling well recently, but you can’t really blame people for being suspicious after what happened with SA and Khashoggi. His brother posted a video saying he believes he was killed, but he was…

> They posted it because he collapsed and died

You missed the point. He's [rightly] complaining about substack.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by bestcoder69 »

benevol wrote: post #24

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Yeah, I thought something was up with that so me and my friends did our own randomized controlled trial where some of us got the vax and some didn't. Luckily I was part of the latter group because, believe or not, the vaccinated ones all dropped like flies.

The result was pretty shocking, so I asked someone I know at the CDC and he basically admitted that The Global Elites (as he called them) ordered a mass-genocide and while he had some misgivings about it, a job is a job and what are you gonna do, y'know?

Anyway it's winter time and I wanted to protect myself and help build up herd immunity so I got the shot last week, so here's to hoping they updated it.

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by marstall »

donatj wrote: post #26

Maybe I am just cynical, but I highly doubt many leaders would actually care about a worker’s death. Most would like have the decorum and PR experience to feign shock, but I doubt you’d get more than an empty “oh that’s terrible“ from most in power. To me the fact that anyone would find this shocking is the most shocking part as it implies people are believing politicians facades.

I think the implication is that the death is emblematic of a larger issue in Qatar, migrant worker rights. And that is something a good leader should and should be expected to care about!
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