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World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Post by somrand0 »

HorizonXP wrote: post #17
tpmx wrote: post #6

https://grantwahl.substack.com/p/world-cup-daily-day-22 My body finally broke down on me. Three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort. I didn’t have Covid (I test regularly here), but I we…

Honestly, as much as I’d like to lean into the conspiracy theories here, I think this post highlights the likely cause of his death. Won’t stop people from speculating though.

the conspiracy here, is the way this system of employees and companies pretends that it's very different from masters and slaves.

the real difference is that a slave has one master, but an employee is some sort of partial-slave that is shared amongst many masters in a way that the employee gets to chose who gets to tell them what to do and that's it.

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Post by throwayyy479087 »

yetanotherforg wrote: post #8

Not surprising at all. mohammed bin salman personally ordered a journalist beheaded in the Istanbul consulate a few years ago. Why not poison a journalist at the World Cup? royal families can commit genocide, and still have no legal financial or personal recourse. To them, he was just a worker and workers are garbage in the Middle East.

No post body was provided.

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nehal3m wrote: post #16
ekianjo wrote: post #14

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This has to be the shittiest take on this story I could possibly imagine. One, this guy is a sports journalist. He wouldn't have covered COVID in any direct sense. Two, you're comparing having to stay indoors to dying in the blistering heat during slave labor in service of an actually totalitarian government. Three, the timing of this death is at the very least suspicious. It's weird that you'll lay the responsibilit…

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Post by donatj »

Maybe I am just cynical, but I highly doubt many leaders would actually care about a worker’s death.

Most would like have the decorum and PR experience to feign shock, but I doubt you’d get more than an empty “oh that’s terrible“ from most in power.

To me the fact that anyone would find this shocking is the most shocking part as it implies people are believing politicians facades.

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

donatj wrote: post #26

Maybe I am just cynical, but I highly doubt many leaders would actually care about a worker’s death. Most would like have the decorum and PR experience to feign shock, but I doubt you’d get more than an empty “oh that’s terrible“ from most in power. To me the fact that anyone would find this shocking is the most shocking part as it implies people are believing politicians facades.

Think as you like but behave like others is the western approach. They would bemoan the loss and be very emotional about it while internally thinking the same thing this guy said. I prefer my leaders to be less fluff.

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Post by yawnr »

simmerup wrote: post #20

Why post something that the majority of us will not be able to read

They posted it because he collapsed and died during extra time at the Argentina Netherlands match the day after he wrote it. Lots of theories and potential explanations for what actually happened as he’s been talking about not feeling well recently, but you can’t really blame people for being suspicious after what happened with SA and Khashoggi.

His brother posted a video saying he believes he was killed, but he was obviously and understandably in a really emotional state. To add to this, his brother is gay and Grant wore a rainbow shirt (as many other prominent journalist have done during this World Cup to protest the Qatari stance on LGBTQ rights) to a match and was told he couldn’t enter the stadium.

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Post by sphinxster »

m12k wrote: post #12
tazjin wrote: post #5

> He actually said that What is he supposed to say instead?

"Even a single preventable death on a job site is one too many. We are doubling down on safety precautions and training to prevent any further workplace hazards. While complete safety is impossible to achieve on a project of this scale, we are using our massive wealth to ensure our construction sites follow international best practices in this area. We value the lives and wellbeing of our workers and will take every…

There are 1+ million migrant workers in Qatar. Roughly, the average human mortality rate is about 1% per year. In a given population of 1 million, you could expect about 27 to die, on average each day. (0.01x1000000)/365 = 27

Sure, more elderly people make up the 1%, and if accounting for the workers ages maybe you'll have half that figure. Or a quarter. The point is, in context, one worker dying out of a million on any given day is unfortunately expected.

It doesn't mean it's not sad, or that the persons life was worthless, or that the death should not be investigated to determine the cause. It does mean that out of 1 million, thousands will ordinarily die during any given year.

How many times per day would it take for an authority to issue a statement like the above before such statements begin to seem trite and meaningless?

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