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Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

The only problem here is collecting photo ID. Someone just needs to educate legislators on zero-knowledge proofs.

Or Apple or Twitter could proactively show how it's done. The app is already 17+ in the App Store.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...two forms of photo ID... I have one valid photo ID. Most people have only one valid photo ID. How is this supposed to work?

For some governmental (aka official) examples: * State-issued ID card (aka the lesser equivalent to a driver's license card) * Federal-issued passport * Federal-issued passport card (yes, these are a thing) For some informal examples (if they have a photo): * Company ID card/documentation * Library card * Medical card ---- Everyone always has access to a state-issued ID card (or driver's license) and a passport issue…

> Everyone always has access to a state-issued ID card (or driver's license) and a passport issued by the federal government. Most people satisfy the "two forms of identification" requirement found in many situations with them.

Most Americans don't have a passport, so that can't possibly be true

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> This might not only be about protecting the children.

When you have verified name and address of every user you can charge a lot more for ads.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some governmental (aka official) examples: * State-issued ID card (aka the lesser equivalent to a driver's license card) * Federal-issued passport * Federal-issued passport card (yes, these are a thing) For some informal examples (if they have a photo): * Company ID card/documentation * Library card * Medical card ---- Everyone always has access to a state-issued ID card (or driver's license) and a passport issue…

> Everyone always has access to a state-issued ID card (or driver's license) and a passport issued by the federal government. Most people satisfy the "two forms of identification" requirement found in many situations with them. Most Americans don't have a passport, so that can't possibly be true

That is by choice, and if someone doesn't want to obtain a passport then that's their problem. The opportunity is there, should they wish to pursue it.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> ...two forms of photo ID... I have one valid photo ID. Most people have only one valid photo ID. How is this supposed to work?

This article is incorrect. What the bill says is you need to provide a photo ID, and then you need to provide a photo of yourself to prove you're the person on the ID (presumably like those tinder verify features where you take a picture of yourself doing a silly pose to prove you're the person in the photos you uploaded).

That said this bill is being proposed, so it's expected to change, particularly on implementation. It's basically a rough draft

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> This might not only be about protecting the children. Sadly, it never is about protecting the children. It's always about pushing other agendas that are, at best, tangentially aimed at protecting children. For example, holding back Texan teens (aka Gen Z, who had a huge impact on the recent midterms) from being a part of the broader political discussion; from informing themselves before they're able to vote.

This x1000.

I live in TX, and it is many people's greatest fear that their kids might start to think differently than their parents.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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post #30
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...two forms of photo ID... I have one valid photo ID. Most people have only one valid photo ID. How is this supposed to work?

For some governmental (aka official) examples: * State-issued ID card (aka the lesser equivalent to a driver's license card) * Federal-issued passport * Federal-issued passport card (yes, these are a thing) For some informal examples (if they have a photo): * Company ID card/documentation * Library card * Medical card ---- Everyone always has access to a state-issued ID card (or driver's license) and a passport issue…

Plenty of people only have a SSN card and a birth certificate, as they neither drive (perhaps due to age or preference) or travel by plane (often for financial reasons or preference).

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> ...two forms of photo ID... I have one valid photo ID. Most people have only one valid photo ID. How is this supposed to work?

"Man's got a point. Two is no good. Let's make it three photo ids." - Texas Legislator Tex

"Hole up there son, we don't want to have to revisit this every year to patch holes. Let's put in a safety margin: Five photo ids." - Texas Legislator Champ

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> This might not only be about protecting the children. Sadly, it never is about protecting the children. It's always about pushing other agendas that are, at best, tangentially aimed at protecting children. For example, holding back Texan teens (aka Gen Z, who had a huge impact on the recent midterms) from being a part of the broader political discussion; from informing themselves before they're able to vote.

I'm amused by the idea that developing brains in particular are being informed, rather than misinformed, by social media. Where did that come from in the age of misinformation and filter bubbles? Adult brains are misinformed by these bubbles, teenage brains are even more vulnerable.
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