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Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by ivan_gammel »

neilv wrote: post #6

> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

1. Show != collect 2. It doesn’t say who should see the ID, could be a specialized and regulated 3rd party as well.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by amadeuspagel »

This would make it harder to make a social media account, make it harder for people to try out new platforms thereby cementing the monopoly of the current ones, make it impossible to make an account without giving your real name to the social media platform — something which people will also be especially reluctant to do with new platforms.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by redskull »

jleyank wrote: post #5
eppp wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? Those are pull only and almost never directly attack children.

Depends on what you’re protecting the kids from. Ideas, actions, …

A news Show doesn't have a broadcaster reaching out to young children...trying to rape them.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by p_j_w »

warning26 wrote: post #2

This…actually seems like a good idea, at least in principle. Pretty much all research seems to be more or less unanimous that social media, as bad as it is, is even worse for younger users. My key concern would be that this legislation could effectively outlaw any anonymous account on any website.

>My key concern would be that this legislation could effectively outlaw any anonymous account on any website.

It would. First line of the article: State Rep. Jared Patterson wants social media sites to require photo identification for users.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by cjbgkagh »

jleyank wrote: post #5
eppp wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? Those are pull only and almost never directly attack children.

Depends on what you’re protecting the kids from. Ideas, actions, …

Individualized targeting. TV and Radio targeting kids would do so in a broadcast manner visible to others watching and thus would be easier to police.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by frob »

neilv wrote: post #6

> A North Texas Republican wants to ban social media for Texans under the age of 18. But wait, there's more: > State Rep. Jared Patterson, R-Frisco, filed House Bill 896 this week that would require social media users to show two forms of photo identification to verify their age. Now all services considered social media would have to collect two forms of photo ID from all users, if they didn't want to be illegal in T…

> ...two forms of photo ID...

I have one valid photo ID. Most people have only one valid photo ID. How is this supposed to work?

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by superkuh »

This is a terrible proposal in it's intent and it's even worse in how it could be implemented. I see everyone here boldly claiming that a particular type of website is "bad" (???) for people but I've never seen that causal link backed up in any reputable journal. What does "bad" (???) even mean?

Websites are not drugs. Websites do not directly manipulate incentive salience and throw the brain's motivations out of wack like, say, cocaine or methamphetamine or tobacco do. Websites have to actually be enjoyable intrinsically before they alter your motivations. This is very unlike drugs. Trying to pass legislation like this that pretends people are without volition signals a far deeper danger: that the state no longer considers people to have volition and that it will force them to make the "correct" decisions. That's appropriate re: some drugs but entirely unjustified here.

Re: Bill to ban social media for Texans under 18

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Post by kayodelycaon »

What is a social media site defined as?

In California, the definition includes any online forum and majority of sites allowing user-submitted content. (Granted, California has a minimum revenue requirement.)

Under a similar definition, this block anyone under 18 from having any accounts on the vast majority of popular sites.

Also, if you squint at it, this could equally apply to any video game company allowing communication between players.

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