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PipeWire 0.3.62

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Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by vladvasiliu »

jchw wrote: post #10
jelicicm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, not really sure about `auto_switch`, didn't dig deep enough to find it I guess. PulseAudio only offered HSF/HSP which sounded simply terrible. PipeWire's HSP sounds pretty good (mSBC codec), although it's still obviously worse than A2DP. I'll have to look into auto switching and how to enable on either system.

Are you saying that in pavucontrol, you see no A2DP modes at all? That's very strange, since all Bluetooth certified stuff should at least support A2DP SBC mode. Out of the box, Pipewire should also be able to support LDAC and maybe AptX. PulseAudio can use Gstreamer to support additional codecs, so on PulseAudio with GStreamer 1.20+ you can get better A2DP coverage, assuming you have the right codec packages install…

jelicicm mentioned ubuntu in the original comment. I seem to remember that as of Ubuntu 20.04, LDAC wasn't supported. I needed to jump through some hoops to get it to work. It was still using full-on pulseaudio, not pipewire, at the time. I wouldn't be surprised for it to still not support non-free codecs out of the box.

I've indeed had no issues on my Arch install. Works perfectly with LDAC on my Sony headphones and aptx-hd on my Shure.

The mic of the Sony is a bad joke so I never use it, but I've tried it and switching modes worked fine on Linux.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by jelicicm »

jchw wrote: post #10
jelicicm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, not really sure about `auto_switch`, didn't dig deep enough to find it I guess. PulseAudio only offered HSF/HSP which sounded simply terrible. PipeWire's HSP sounds pretty good (mSBC codec), although it's still obviously worse than A2DP. I'll have to look into auto switching and how to enable on either system.

Are you saying that in pavucontrol, you see no A2DP modes at all? That's very strange, since all Bluetooth certified stuff should at least support A2DP SBC mode. Out of the box, Pipewire should also be able to support LDAC and maybe AptX. PulseAudio can use Gstreamer to support additional codecs, so on PulseAudio with GStreamer 1.20+ you can get better A2DP coverage, assuming you have the right codec packages install…

Sorry, not saying that. I do have an option of either A2DP or HSP. I was not familiar with auto switch. But you kind people have filled me in in this thread. A2DP sounds amazing for listening to music, no problems there. The problem is the hassle of switching between profiles, since I tend to use my headphones in work environment (calls, meetings) - this is the reason I still keep a pair of cabled headphones around.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by jelicicm »

viraptor wrote: post #9
jelicicm wrote: post #5

Stumbled into PipeWire few months ago when trying to setup Bluetooth headset on Ubuntu OS. It's superior to PulseAudio, but... Really unbelievable to comprehend that Linux distros have such bad support for Bluetooth audio headsets - something very common in today's tech world. Android, Windows and Apple's OS all very efficiently switch from A2DP codec which is excellent for audio playback, but has no possibility for…

Not sure if this is what you were pointing out here, so just in case: Pipewire does allow you to switch BT codecs including the ones which do better bidi quality. Including autoswitching if you want it to happen automatically https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Automatic_profile_... (you can switch manually as well)

Thanks. Will give it a try!

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by lionkor »

I use PipeWire on my desktop and laptop, and its doing a better job than pulse ever did.

That said, I've had daily issues with it, from it slowing video playback (weirdly, by about 10 seconds over 20 minutes or so, only noticable when watching something synchronized with someone else), over crackling noises with speakers when no audio is playing, to straight up lags and skips every few seconds with certain devices.

Audio on linux is a complete joke, and I'm glad pipewire is there to tackle it.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by CarVac »

lionkor wrote: post #14

I use PipeWire on my desktop and laptop, and its doing a better job than pulse ever did. That said, I've had daily issues with it, from it slowing video playback (weirdly, by about 10 seconds over 20 minutes or so, only noticable when watching something synchronized with someone else), over crackling noises with speakers when no audio is playing, to straight up lags and skips every few seconds with certain devices. A…

I've experienced that same lack of synchronization with other people.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by Filligree »

CarVac wrote: post #15
lionkor wrote: post #14

I use PipeWire on my desktop and laptop, and its doing a better job than pulse ever did. That said, I've had daily issues with it, from it slowing video playback (weirdly, by about 10 seconds over 20 minutes or so, only noticable when watching something synchronized with someone else), over crackling noises with speakers when no audio is playing, to straight up lags and skips every few seconds with certain devices. A…

I've experienced that same lack of synchronization with other people.

I can recommend Syncplay. For a variety of reasons, but it’ll also deal with desync.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by thewataccount »

jelicicm wrote: post #5

Stumbled into PipeWire few months ago when trying to setup Bluetooth headset on Ubuntu OS. It's superior to PulseAudio, but... Really unbelievable to comprehend that Linux distros have such bad support for Bluetooth audio headsets - something very common in today's tech world. Android, Windows and Apple's OS all very efficiently switch from A2DP codec which is excellent for audio playback, but has no possibility for…

I've personally had a smoother experience on KDE with PipeWire because it seems to switch quicker for my headphones automatically, and worst case I can just right click it in the bottom right and select the correct codec.

On Mac OS X however with the same headset, there's no manual switching, and I have to try to "coax" it into switching back by playing media like Spotify and it's not super consistent.

Granted I only switch accidentally when I accidentally have my headphones selected as the audio source.

Re: PipeWire 0.3.62

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Post by sph »

lionkor wrote: post #14

I use PipeWire on my desktop and laptop, and its doing a better job than pulse ever did. That said, I've had daily issues with it, from it slowing video playback (weirdly, by about 10 seconds over 20 minutes or so, only noticable when watching something synchronized with someone else), over crackling noises with speakers when no audio is playing, to straight up lags and skips every few seconds with certain devices. A…

If you haven't, post an issue on the Pipewire repo. I've found that the main author, Wim Taymans, is very proactive in fixing any issue if they're reproducible.

I've opened two bugs, and two times he fixed them personally in less than a week, which is incredible for an open source project of that size.

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