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The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

scifibestfi wrote: post #8
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, first of all, “tweets” don’t “trend”. Terms do. So this description feels off, already. Next, I wonder, but don’t care enough to look it up, if this guy is adequately summarized by only mentioning his concern for children? Screw that, I did look him up: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Bhattacharya#COVID-19_pa... . He was one of the people behind the “Great” Barrington Declaration and, kn the early months of…

He's a Dr. and a Stanford professor of medicine. The Great Barrington Declaration was signed by almost a million doctors. They were warning about the harm lockdowns would do to kids and they were correct. Even if they weren't, this would still be unacceptable.

As I said, it’s debatable if the guy’s reach needed to be limited, the point you are arguing.

What’s not debatable is that the breathless outrage-bait under discussion misrepresented the case for limiting the Dr’s reach with a straw-man argument, and so did you.

Re: The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

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Post by veec_cas_tant »

Is this information new (as of #27)? Doesn't every social media platform augment reach for troublemakers? For example, here is Elon's new policy[0]:

>New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

>Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter.

>You won’t find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different from rest of Internet.

None of this info seems to warrant such a spectacle.

[0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864

Re: The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

sergiotapia wrote: post #9
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, first of all, “tweets” don’t “trend”. Terms do. So this description feels off, already. Next, I wonder, but don’t care enough to look it up, if this guy is adequately summarized by only mentioning his concern for children? Screw that, I did look him up: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Bhattacharya#COVID-19_pa... . He was one of the people behind the “Great” Barrington Declaration and, kn the early months of…

All of that is irrelevant. Twitter had a secret blacklist. Gross behavior from a gross company.

A “secret blacklist” that’s been known forever, or at least for two years: https://twitter.com/dancow/status/1601017194456186881?s=20&t...

Re: The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

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Post by veec_cas_tant »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #14
sergiotapia wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of that is irrelevant. Twitter had a secret blacklist. Gross behavior from a gross company.

A “secret blacklist” that’s been known forever, or at least for two years: https://twitter.com/dancow/status/1601017194456186881?s=20&t...

Here is an announcement from 2018[0]:

>“It’s shaping up to be one of the highest-impact things that we’ve done,” the chief executive, Jack Dorsey ,said of the update, which will change how tweets appear in search results or conversations. “The spirit of the thing is that we want to take the burden off the person receiving abuse or mob-like behavior.”

> The new system will use behavioral signals to assess whether a Twitter account is adding to – or detracting from – the tenor of conversations...

> The updated algorithm will result in certain tweets being pushed further down in a list of search results or replies, but will not delete them from the platform.

[0]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/15/twitter-r...

Re: The Twitter Files Part 2: Twitter's Secret Blacklists

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Post by IAmEveryone »

I wonder what Musk would say about the idea of limiting Tweets instead of banning them.

Oh, wait!

  New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

  Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter. 

  You won’t find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different from rest of Internet.
Elon Musk, Nov 18th, 2022: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593673339826212864
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