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Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

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Any idea what the trigger is? This doesn’t happen normally so I’m wondering whether there some relationship with the vendor UCLA uses or some other network condition.

Lots of people in close proximity seemed to be the trigger for my terrible experience with this last week (talking several hundred sitting in desks next to each other)

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#53

I (used to) work in academic IT and I hate articles like this. People would assume there is a serious problem, turn off a bunch of services, run a bunch of random-ass shell scripts, and then forget that they'd done all that and at some random point in the future discover that some feature wasn't working, and blame me.

back in the day i used to support microsoft's ISA product (layer 7 firewall)

customers would just not know what configuration they had made. so we had a bit of VBScript that would dump the entire config into a text file. amazing how many customers had left themselves open in bad ways in production systems and also how their perspectives of what was configured did or did not match reality.

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#54

I (used to) work in academic IT and I hate articles like this. People would assume there is a serious problem, turn off a bunch of services, run a bunch of random-ass shell scripts, and then forget that they'd done all that and at some random point in the future discover that some feature wasn't working, and blame me.

I just spent the last week diagnosing catastrophic Wi-Fi issues at a client location. 90% of macs wouldn’t connect to Wi-Fi, when they would association would take 45 seconds. Sometimes you couldn’t route or ping the gateway. When you could you’d get disassociated within a minute. Turning off the airdrop/anirplay interface fixes it instantly. sudo ifconfig awdl0 down It took us 5 days to figure it out. We had no less…

Was it happening to M1/M2s like the article states? Because I’m experiencing very similar issues with a 2019 model.

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#55
post #12

Any idea what the trigger is? This doesn’t happen normally so I’m wondering whether there some relationship with the vendor UCLA uses or some other network condition.

Lots of people in close proximity seemed to be the trigger for my terrible experience with this last week (talking several hundred sitting in desks next to each other)

Interesting, I wonder if that’s telling you some kind of error handling edge case

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#56

I (used to) work in academic IT and I hate articles like this. People would assume there is a serious problem, turn off a bunch of services, run a bunch of random-ass shell scripts, and then forget that they'd done all that and at some random point in the future discover that some feature wasn't working, and blame me.

I messed with my Switch's netwotk settings based on a random Tweet some years ago for Smash, maybe something about packet size. So did a lot of other people. I wonder if I aught to clear that. Doesn't seem to hurt though.

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#57

I really don’t like that the page asks users to blindly curl and execute a script that then curl and executes another script all to run a one line `ifconfig` command. Why not just share the command?

I thought we’d gotten over this thing where people thing they appear smart because they copy & paste instead of using curl?

It's not about being "smart". It's a completely unnecessary complication in this case.

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#58

I (used to) work in academic IT and I hate articles like this. People would assume there is a serious problem, turn off a bunch of services, run a bunch of random-ass shell scripts, and then forget that they'd done all that and at some random point in the future discover that some feature wasn't working, and blame me.

I just spent the last week diagnosing catastrophic Wi-Fi issues at a client location. 90% of macs wouldn’t connect to Wi-Fi, when they would association would take 45 seconds. Sometimes you couldn’t route or ping the gateway. When you could you’d get disassociated within a minute. Turning off the airdrop/anirplay interface fixes it instantly. sudo ifconfig awdl0 down It took us 5 days to figure it out. We had no less…

Sounds like a good argument for Ethernet and wired docks? I mean if millions are on the line why wouldn’t you ensure there is that backup there?

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#59
I’ve been noticing this for a while. Both my laptop and my wife’s have this problem. Both are M1.

Both our iPhones seem to have similar issues.

I went mad trying to figure it out with my router/APs etc.

I was certain there is no way it could be Apple’s issue. But in hindsight this makes sense.

Especially so, if Apple is sharing some driver logic between M1 laptops and A16 SOCs on the phones.

Edit: I want to add that this most-noticably manifested as websites loading incompletely. Looking at the network tab, this would show some HTTP requests fail even before establishing a connection. Other requests were fine. So most sites were broken, or don't render correctly without css. Restart was the only fix.

Re: Recent Apple updates leading to WiFi issues?

#60
I do encounter weird Wi-Fi issues on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Not sure if it is related to this bug.

Sometimes I am just unable to load any web pages, but I can ping those sites. I have to reboot it regularly to reconnect to the internet. The issue is most likely to occur after waking from sleep.

The issue is so bad that I have to fall back to a Hackintosh at home. I originally was using an Intel-based WiFi card is great; later, I switched to a Broadcom card to enable handoff / AirDrop / AirPlay. After switching, it seems to degrade internet stability. The symptom seems like it has something to do with awdl0, so it might get helped from the post.

All my Windows computers work with no issues on the same network. I followed some instructions online to change the MTU [1] it seems to fix the issue somewhat.

[1]: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/177873/full-wi-fi-...

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