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Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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how's everyone else from the control group doing these days? things were never really that bad, discrimination-wise, here in South Dakota, but what was/is it like everywhere else?

(edit: wow I thought we were, as a collective, Largely Over It now—guess that's not the case! I'm glad things aren't as bad as they are in this thread where I live! one has to wonder though: how long will this deep-seated emotion-based discrimination go on for?)

Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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I have a friend who is allergic to many vaccines. A bad reaction as a kid led to him needing years of rehab. He's also high risk for Covid. He's pro-vaccine in general I guess I should add, but his doctor told him to not get the covid shots because the risk was too high

Whenever I mention that it's cruel to exclude people like him from society, due to vaccine requirements, when people like him are presumably what all these rules were meant to protect, a little mob came together to denounce the idea and say that he absolutely should never be allowed in public again.

Almost everybody was safe from covid -- it was a handful of high risk people who we were trying to protect. In theory. But instead, all the low risk people wanted to throw the high risk people under the bus to save themselves.

Eg, healthy people couldn't go to movie theatres, but my grandma's care home had outbreak after outbreak, with no resources spared to isolate people like her. Or an other friend who was high risk, but worked in retail -- zero resources available to keep her away from all the sick people (this was back before everyone was quadruple vaxed).

It was disgusting

Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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When my children were born, my father and his mother refused to get the TDAP. I refused them access to my house to see my newborn before they got vaccinated. They eventually relented and got the vaccination. There's a friend of a friend that I know that is anti-vax re: measles, that I refuse to let my children around. I have no interest or time to risk our health (yes, even for 0.01%) for people who refuse do basic medical self-upkeep (allergies aside, my brother is allergic and I make an exception for him).

Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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some of the things I heard people say: "It angers me that people like this are able to vote" "why should I have to share restaurant space with someone who doesn't care about others"

I thought it was mostly an online phenomenon wherein medical professionals were entertaining the idea of refusing medical care to the unvaccinated, right up until I heard it repeated by a friend of mine who is a nurse admin.

Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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When I was growing up, they counted anyone who got vaccinated against something as a "success." So if 80 percent got vaccinated for X, they bragged about that.

These days, we count anyone who didn't get vaccinated as a failure and bellyache about that 20 percent that "won't cooperate" and malign them as problem children who don't have a good reason for their choices.

It's a dramatic change in attitude and it's very scary stuff because people are increasingly fine with "We shall just force the minority to get vaccinated and make their lives hell if they continue to resist." It's really, really scary stuff and most people don't seem to recognize how and why it's scary stuff.

Re: Discriminatory attitudes against the unvaccinated during a global pandemic

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I have a friend who is allergic to many vaccines. A bad reaction as a kid led to him needing years of rehab. He's also high risk for Covid. He's pro-vaccine in general I guess I should add, but his doctor told him to not get the covid shots because the risk was too high Whenever I mention that it's cruel to exclude people like him from society, due to vaccine requirements, when people like him are presumably what all…

I'm deadly allergic to eggs, and the only flu vaccine easily available to me is made with eggs, so I don't take it.

There are many other medically valid reasons to not take a vaccine. There are even some (a very small number) of people whose religious convictions are a valid reason to get an exemption.

The issue is that the overwhelming majority (>99%) of people who choose not to vaccinate, do so for bad reasons, which amounts to making an uninformed medical decision, and one that adversely impacts other people in addition to themselves. These people are what the controversy is actually about.

Anyone bullying people who have medical issues is a bad person and needs to chill.

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