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Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by _dain_ »

mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I feel like the entire thread should have led off with "This is in fact a publicly known hangar in Palmdale and this was known as public information as soon as the unveiling event occurred, and thus this is just an exercise to show how locating the spot could have been possible from just this photo as a technical demonstration." Because I guarantee there are going to be a hundred clickbait articles by various 'news'…

This trick happened for real with the HWNDU stunt back in 2017. 4channers found the flag based on the stars in the livestream, along with matching aircraft contrails to flight radar maps.

https://youtu.be/vw9zyxm860Q

Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by NikolaNovak »

Related unrelated question : how come this is public?

F117 was a dark skunk project shown years after being operational. That made sense to me for a super secret project with wildly new technologies and capabilities.

I don't understand the announcements of such projects from the vision stage, with the details of capability, purpose, strategy, photos,etc.

Is it commoditized sufficiently? Is it deterrence? Is there enough misinformation?

Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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NikolaNovak wrote: post #33

Related unrelated question : how come this is public? F117 was a dark skunk project shown years after being operational. That made sense to me for a super secret project with wildly new technologies and capabilities. I don't understand the announcements of such projects from the vision stage, with the details of capability, purpose, strategy, photos,etc. Is it commoditized sufficiently? Is it deterrence? Is there eno…

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Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by chasd00 »

_dain_ wrote: post #31
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I feel like the entire thread should have led off with "This is in fact a publicly known hangar in Palmdale and this was known as public information as soon as the unveiling event occurred, and thus this is just an exercise to show how locating the spot could have been possible from just this photo as a technical demonstration." Because I guarantee there are going to be a hundred clickbait articles by various 'news'…

This trick happened for real with the HWNDU stunt back in 2017. 4channers found the flag based on the stars in the livestream, along with matching aircraft contrails to flight radar maps. https://youtu.be/vw9zyxm860Q

remember when 4chan figured out the location of a terrorist training camp from one of their PR photos and called in a literal airstrike? I like how 4chan is sometimes described as weaponized autism.

https://imgur.com/N7DwWP1?r

Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by bee_rider »

boardwaalk wrote: post #10

I mean, they livestreamed the rollout on YouTube on the Edward’s AFB YouTube channel and said it was at NG’s Palmdale facility (paraphrasing). I’m not sure any of this was a secret…

Also the Airforce and Northrop Grumman must be familiar with the idea of celestial navigation. And the shot was clearly taken in the evening on purpose (I assume, at least, that a PR shot has to justify being taken outside of maximum daylight).

They probably want it to feel vaguely spacey for the sci-fi vibes.

They’ve got at least as good star charts as the rest of us, so if they really wanted to be jokers they could photoshop some stars in, make it look like it is flying over an adversary’s country…

Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by ForHackernews »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #33

Related unrelated question : how come this is public? F117 was a dark skunk project shown years after being operational. That made sense to me for a super secret project with wildly new technologies and capabilities. I don't understand the announcements of such projects from the vision stage, with the details of capability, purpose, strategy, photos,etc. Is it commoditized sufficiently? Is it deterrence? Is there eno…

I've read some things that suggest the B-21 may not offer radical new capabilities (over say, the B-2) but it will be way way cheaper to build and operate.

There were only 21 B-2s ever built. The Air Force has already ordered 100 B-21s.

Re: Finding the B-21's hangar location from the stars in its press image

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I feel like the entire thread should have led off with "This is in fact a publicly known hangar in Palmdale and this was known as public information as soon as the unveiling event occurred, and thus this is just an exercise to show how locating the spot could have been possible from just this photo as a technical demonstration." Because I guarantee there are going to be a hundred clickbait articles by various 'news'…

I feel like when you diss journalists, it should generally be for something they actually did wrong, not preemptively based on your imagination.

If they are so terrible, there should be no need to invent stuff.

When people read something like this post, and they are predisposed to the idea, it’ll reinforce their skepticism of „the mainstream media“. If you want to test yourself, make a bet of how many media outlets will run with the story in the manner outlined above, then check in a few days. My prediction: you won’t see it in the NYT, WSJ, BBC, or on CNN.

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