Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

Post by MisterTea » Thu, Dec 08, 2022, 4:40 PM UTC

ilyt wrote: post #87

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #65

I would prefer to use RedHat based distros but their lack of official non free repos annoy me - I don’t want to add a community repo, I want packages maintained by trusted core engineers. Sure the community repos probably have that, but I last I checked I couldn’t find any assurance on the security of the community repos. SBOMs don’t mean shit if you’re installing stuff from random no-assurance locations.

Then you want Debian. We've had FAR less problems with Debians than anything from Red Hat stable

Post by liamnal » Thu, Dec 08, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

realgmk wrote: post #109

liamnal wrote: post #95

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>For example, see the commit log to the early set of Rocky Linux devtools And that's literally it. After that... Nothing. Not surprising. >"All he does is talk" is unfairly dismissive. Funny because he's the only one ever mentioned or talked to in any article. It'd be nice to hear from the actual developers and not a figure head. Notice how it's only him? His role is to talk. His other company is also there to take c…

I do try to ensure that others are always getting credit, I'm not even mentioned in the release notes of who did the work. And the board doesn't keep people out. If you read the bylaws and charter, you would know that it is all contributing members of the projects that will vote for the board members, and the board will elect the officers of the organization. You are obviously not an RESF Member and I trust the Membe…

Post by flumpcakes » Thu, Dec 08, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

Mikhail_K wrote: post #105

flumpcakes wrote: post #80

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> Do your homework. You assume I don't know what systemd is or why people have complained? This is frankly a rude comment to make and shows yourself in a very poor light. I thought it was pretty common knowledge in 2022 that systemd is fine . It's the default in the vast majority of Linux distros. The vast majority of people have gotten over the drama of change. I was asking for a specific reason why someone was comp…

> I thought it was pretty common knowledge in 2022 that systemd is fine. You thought wrongly. > The vast majority of people have gotten over the drama of change. Implying the only reason to object to systemd is "the drama of change".

Post by GrinningFool » Thu, Dec 08, 2022, 5:54 PM UTC

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #65

I would prefer to use RedHat based distros but their lack of official non free repos annoy me - I don’t want to add a community repo, I want packages maintained by trusted core engineers. Sure the community repos probably have that, but I last I checked I couldn’t find any assurance on the security of the community repos. SBOMs don’t mean shit if you’re installing stuff from random no-assurance locations.

Post by carlwgeorge » Thu, Dec 08, 2022, 6:04 PM UTC

liamnal wrote: post #30

dotancohen wrote: post #16

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As much as it pains me to say it, FOSS devs are a finite resource and it seems that being divided is just as if having been conquered. Neither Rocky nor Alma are progressing at the rate that a CentOS fork with a hostile RH upstream would progress if they were working together and not duplicating efforts. What is the philosophical schism between the two? Why can't they split the workload on a single distro and reunite…

It's just like with any distribution, each have their own philosophies and how they want to tackle something. Oracle Linux is still around for example, but we don't talk about them too often. Rocky seems to have mostly volunteers. Alma has people who are likely paid because they come from or likely still work for CloudLinux. Either way, you're getting a RHEL clone if you go with either. And that is keeping in mind th…