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Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by [deleted] »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #39
redthrowaway wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The omnibox is already awesome. It's Chrome's definitive UX feature, and I'm surprised nobody else has implemented it yet.

Yep, when i have to test something in Firefox i always forget that to search in Google (or in other popular site) i can't just write it in the address bar. And it always remember all my sites so to go to hacker news i just write an "n" and it writes the rest... and i can even delete the suggestions with shift+delete. So yeah, i also don't have any idea what the parent comment was triyng to say.

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Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by redthrowaway »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #39
redthrowaway wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The omnibox is already awesome. It's Chrome's definitive UX feature, and I'm surprised nobody else has implemented it yet.

Yep, when i have to test something in Firefox i always forget that to search in Google (or in other popular site) i can't just write it in the address bar. And it always remember all my sites so to go to hacker news i just write an "n" and it writes the rest... and i can even delete the suggestions with shift+delete. So yeah, i also don't have any idea what the parent comment was triyng to say.

God I love chrome's autocomplete. HN is 'n', reddit is 'r', Facebook is 'f', gmail is 'g'... It's such a great usability feature. Google's approach with Chrome seems to be making the browser as invisible as possible, and I love it.

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by hub_ »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #39
redthrowaway wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The omnibox is already awesome. It's Chrome's definitive UX feature, and I'm surprised nobody else has implemented it yet.

Yep, when i have to test something in Firefox i always forget that to search in Google (or in other popular site) i can't just write it in the address bar. And it always remember all my sites so to go to hacker news i just write an "n" and it writes the rest... and i can even delete the suggestions with shift+delete. So yeah, i also don't have any idea what the parent comment was triyng to say.

uh? I type something in the address bar, and Firefox JFGIFM. It is called the awesome bar. I think you are confusing with Safari.

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by hub_ »

ootachi wrote: post #40
jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, when i have to test something in Firefox i always forget that to search in Google (or in other popular site) i can't just write it in the address bar. And it always remember all my sites so to go to hacker news i just write an "n" and it writes the rest... and i can even delete the suggestions with shift+delete. So yeah, i also don't have any idea what the parent comment was triyng to say.

Except you can just write it in the address bar (and hit enter). Try it!

He must be confusing with Safari.

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by nikcub »

Google's browser efforts started with Gears. At the time browser development was stagnant an Google needed the technology to advance in order to improve their web applications and compete with the old desktop software model.

Chrome is an extension of that effort and has played a large part in driving adoption of new web technology.

But I don't buy the part about Google not being as interested in having users. Chrome is the operating system that runs the Google applications. They have increased their marketing spend this year by 69% to $4.9 billion dollars.

Google, marketing, something they never used to do and were known for not spending on. A lot of that marketing is for the chrome brand. The reason so many average PC users know about chrome is because of the market. They even hired Lady Gaga to do a Chrome ad, and I don't think they would go to the trouble of doing that if they were not interested in attracting users.

It is ok that Google want users for Chrome - nothing wrong with it. They have done so much to help users and the web with their investment in browser technology that there is no shame in marketing the product and wanting the world to use it.

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by ygjb »

davidu wrote: post #20
drhowarddrfine wrote: post #5

Google has said from the beginning that the purpose of Chrome was to move the web forward, not compete with other browsers, and I had forgotten that.

This is not Chrome's purpose. Everything between the user and the monetization mechanism (advertisement) is strategic to Google. It just doesn't sound as warm and fuzzy when they say it like that.

So close... add a couple more details: - Google makes money from ads - Promoting open web technologies reduces the stack they have to support - Promoting open platforms removes roadblocks to reaching customers - Supporting "competitors" that provide revenue generation channels ensures that even when the lose, they win.

Business is not warm and fuzzy. For that, you need to go non-profit. Look at these and you can see that Mozilla is really warm and fuzzy: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefoxlive/

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by lukeschlather »

cpeterso wrote: post #24
resnamen wrote: post #14

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Starting with ICS it is Chrome.

[citation needed] According to this HTML5 compliance test, the ICS browser scores 230 (out of 450), while Chrome 15 desktop browser scores 342. Why would these browsers have such distant scores if they shared the same browser core? For comparison, the Firefox 8 desktop browser scores 314 and the Firefox 8 mobile browser scores 314. http://www.html5test.com/results-mobile.html

There are a variety of options that are disabled on the mobile build to save memory and cpu. It's the same core, it just doesn't have all the bells and whistles enabled for a variety of reasons.

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by redthrowaway »

nextparadigms wrote: post #13

I would've thought this was obvious. Google didn't just pay $300 to stop Firefox from using Bing, although I'm sure that played a big role, too, but I believe the reason Mozilla got $300 million was because they knew how to negotiate the price up. I don't think Mozilla really wanted to change to Bing. Also, Google is a lot better off having an ally in Mozilla. Not so much because they don't want Bing to get a lot of…

s/300 ^[million]/300M

I think...

Re: We and Mozilla are working together to make the web awesome

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Post by nl »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #16
rmc wrote: post #11

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They have sponsored and released the only modern smartphone OS that isn't locked down to one company like iOS. They (through Android) are to Apple, what OpenOffice/LibreOffice is to MS Office. They are the reason Apple don't own smartphone. With Google/Android what would be the Apple competitor? Blackberry? OpenMoko?!

In the context of this posting, I'm specifically talking about the mobile web.

Have you tried the Android browser in 3.2 or 4? It's pretty damn good....
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