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Tor Browser 12.0

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Re: Tor Browser 12.0

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Post by orthecreedence »

nirvgorilla wrote: post #53
deadfromtor wrote: post #7

Just FYI that HN is very anti-tor. I made this account via Tor just now to prove the point. It will be dead by default (unless someone "vouches" for it). It's a very user-hostile stance that HN takes (along with not letting you delete your account). It really makes you wonder what they're doing with all this data? Doxxing is almost a given.

Yup. Suspicious just like when reddit became hostile to Tor. It's also a violation of the spirit of the internet. Tim Berners-Lee wrote about this in the December 2010 issue of Scientific American that any walled off website that blocks you from accessing it is unacceptable because it's not the web anymore.

> Suspicious just like when reddit became hostile to Tor.

And any website using Cloudflare.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#112

Post by ipaddr »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #55
super256 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wouldn't emailing @dang be against the purpose of Tor, which is to enhance privacy? Just use webmail in your tor browser. And don't send it from your main gmail, but create a throwaway.

It's pretty hard to sign up for an email account over Tor. The closest I've seen is Protonmail, which will let you make an anonymous account in exchange for a Bitcoin payment.

disposable email services.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#114

Post by ipaddr »

data_maan wrote: post #88

All comments here focus on extreme cases: The police viewing you as a possible suspect, FBI becoming interested in you etc. Here is a much more mundane problem: Using Tor (even a VPN) while logging in to most big Silicon Valley firma that make money with your data (LinkedIn, Facebook, Tinder etc.) will result in your profile being suspended REAL FAST with the only way out to upload your gov't ID, i.e. complete deanon…

Stop using those services. This is a clear message that you cannot use them privately.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#115

Post by orthecreedence »

sasattack wrote: post #21
mothsonasloth wrote: post #15

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Could we maybe not on this website use the term glowie considering it's explicitly sourced from a neo nazi and a phrase involving the n word. seems like maybe not real in line with HN rules....

I thought glowie was a term used to describe undercover FBI/CIA agents. It's in frequent use in leftist (communist/anarchist, not liberal democrat) forums.

Is there actual substance behind this claim of its origins or is it yet another tired attempt to rewrite language for no particular reason?

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#116

Post by insanitybit »

optimalsolver wrote: post #9

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

> The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently.

I'm curious as to how it stands out. I can imagine a few things, like an ISP seeing traffic to known TOR intermediary nodes, or maybe analyzing packets to look for some sort of handshake?

> Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look.

Sort of. But what would looking do? What does looking mean? The traffic is encrypted, they can look all they like. In the US they'll need more than "they connected to TOR" to get a warrant to search your device.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

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Post by orthecreedence »

optimalsolver wrote: post #9

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

I use it when looking up drugs and medical conditions. If the NSA wants to spend their budget connecting me to searches about sumatriptan or plantar fascitis then that's a useful (useful to me, fuck the NSA) waste of their time. If not, then it creates noise for the rest of the network.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

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Post by robert_foss »

jason-phillips wrote: post #108
robert_foss wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ran one in my student housing wardrobe a decade or so ago. I too have some stories, but no one ever met up with me in the flesh.

Come on then, no need to be coy.

For example, once or twice people called me (somehow) and asked why I was hacking their websites. I tried to explain, but I doubt I convinced anyone.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#119

Post by [deleted] »

data_maan wrote: post #89

I once spoke with someone who knew someone who ran an exit node in Europe. He told crazy stories with police knocking every once in a while. Also the legal structure to do that was tricky, because you want to avoid the police searching your house; you'd also like tl spread responsability on multiple shoulders. So you have to create a kind of non-profit organization and run the exit node through that. It's very hard w…

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Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#120

Post by Gigachad »

orthecreedence wrote: post #113
Gigachad wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are probably not satisfied that Tor doesn’t have a deplatforming mechanism.

Can you elaborate on this? I think I'm missing some context.

Based on their blog post where they want more deplatforming capabilities https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat...

There was also a comment from one of the Tor foundation members about how they wish they were able to deplatform kiwi farms from tor but it’s technically not possible.

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