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I don’t want to be an internet person

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq »

Loughla wrote: post #157
the_only_law wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The alternative may have been to confront harsh reality and realize you're nobody to noone. God I wish more would.

Why? I don't understand what you're getting at.

Most people are much too self-important. If you think at the global scale, each of our existence (except those in position of extraordinary decision-making power) is pretty unimportant/inconsequential outside of the realm of chaos theory.

I think that understanding this is the first step of putting yourself in a position of power. Self-importance is very blinding.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq »

georgeburdell wrote: post #29
jzellis wrote: post #12

The worst thing about these people isn't that they're shitty edgelords spouting nonsensical gobbledygook about NFTs like they've discovered fire. The worst thing about them is that they're uniformly boring in every conceivable way. Great, some submillennial has made his own version of ZooTV on a dying social network. That must be terribly exciting if you've never seen any media ever that came out before Gossip Girl.…

As a Millennial who spends a decent chunk of time on the internet, but not on social media sites, your words are incomprehensible to me and I’m not sure why.

Summary:

It's bad enough that some people have anxious, provocative, and attention seeking personality that comes out as fringe tech elitism. Yet it's even worse that this is nothing new.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq »

boredumb wrote: post #39

The pattern here is not the internet but these people being severely autistic and so they are probably forced to thrive online where they aren't having to deal with eye contact or other social queues that they can't really process. Not even sure what this was meant to be, but it should probably be rewritten to "I don't want to be an autistic person" and it would have read the exact same way. Even down to the preferre…

Not sure if it's autism or edgy angst.

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Post by Mezzie »

jacooper wrote: post #67
cxf12 wrote: post #52

I now know that giving my 10 yo daughter a phone for Christmas 3 years ago was a huge mistake for the exact reasons this article sites.

I was given unfiltered access to the internet at an early age, yet I found my self avoiding almost every pitfall in it I still don't why or how to direct kids towards having this "internal compass" to avoid weird or dangerous stuff.

I was also (I got online at the age of 4 in 1993) and I think a lot of avoiding the pitfalls was being around adults in real life who understood how the internet worked. Not just my parents, but other adults as well. For example, I understood very young that there was a lot of overlap between people I talked to online and the awkward adult men I met at computer shows. I also got to listen to my mom's complaints about existing as a female geek in IRL geek spaces. It prevented me from putting internet people on a pedestal. I always knew we were all weirdos.

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Post by slothtrop »

vaidhy wrote: post #167
buildsjets wrote: post #15

"All my friends are online. Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet?" Yes. But they really weren't your friends to begin with, so it doesn't matter.

So, who are "real" friends? Only people who you interact in face to face? Does the same thing also extend to family? If I move countries and can only meet my extended family over the web, they become "not my real" family?

This weirdly ignores that no one wants or expects to interact with their family solely virtually indefinitely owing to distance, and that long-distance friendships made also entailed having met face-to-face before keeping in touch.

A friend online can still be friendship, but more limited in what it can offer. There's no replacement for being with people, it's a fundamental human need. I've been in close-knit online communities in the past and never once did it fulfill social needs. At best it was entertaining.

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Post by [deleted] »

rhacker wrote: post #180
ryandrake wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are sub-cultures and there are insular sub-cultures that form someone's entire identity. These Internet people would be a fish out of water anywhere, whereas the Silicon Valley entrepreneur might just be able to blend in, socialize, and find some common ground in that Idaho roadhouse. You need to have at least some kind of personality and be capable of a little flexibility. The subjects of the article were neit…

Head higher up North. There's still some right leaning stuff, which for some reason SF newspapers like to call Far-right extremism. But when you're actually here, it's probably exactly like your rural rifle-range town.

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Post by projectazorian »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #59
emptyfile wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, are you making some sort of offensive joke or do you really think the world works in such stereotypes and prejudices? Rave people are "brightly colored and fidgety" ?? A polished entrepreneur is incapable of ordering in a low class bar? Jesus F Christ.

I'm intentionally using extreme examples of people who are highly committed to the scene they have embedded themselves in just like TFA interviewed the most extreme members of "internet people" they could find. Take a minute to think before immediately reacting with your anti-bias bias.

Most ravers I know are perfectly capable of ordering a beer. If they're getting stared at in that scenario it's purely due to their appearance and mannerisms, not their inability to interact socially.

Raves are social events by definition. So someone who goes to them is likely to have at least some capacity for in-person interaction.

(Beer is often sold at raves btw - although many really serious raver types won't touch alcohol at a rave.)

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Post by H8crilA »

pdntspa wrote: post #120
jzellis wrote: post #12

The worst thing about these people isn't that they're shitty edgelords spouting nonsensical gobbledygook about NFTs like they've discovered fire. The worst thing about them is that they're uniformly boring in every conceivable way. Great, some submillennial has made his own version of ZooTV on a dying social network. That must be terribly exciting if you've never seen any media ever that came out before Gossip Girl.…

I'm just sick of seeing everyone have these obxious, stupid "extra" personalities. Nobody can be calm or cool, nobody ever wants to channel any kind of zen, everything has to have the energy of an episode Pee-Wee's Playhouse. It's like we never advanced past 3 years old.

FWIW it's a normal part of growing up (teenage angst). Looked different but not really when I was younger.

The key question is "so what?", for example "so what they all have these fake personalities", which somehow takes years to understand.

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Post by s5300 »

batman-farts wrote: post #168
ahoy wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Palladium is a Thiel-backed rightwing propaganda outlet that insists it's "non partisan". It's a shame to see t shared here

I did not know, but am not surprised, that Palladium takes Thiel funding. That greatly clarifies this article’s purpose for me. It seemed odd to see another think piece about the NFT trend when it has already largely burned itself out, but Davis here is acting as something of a “party whip” for Thiel’s nascent political movement. The message of the article is much more aimed at the people being described in the artic…

Sorry if I’ve misinterpreted something you’ve stated - but as somebody from the “area”, I just wanted to mention JD Vance is an astroturfed loser in the most major way & absolutely nobody should aspire to be like him.

Like, I’m pretty sure I’m from the poorest district in the state/area.

Vance is a fucking loser any of the even mildly intelligent around despise.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq »

Loughla wrote: post #199
clnq wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Code switching is completely natural to me, I would not know how to express myself with just one language to some people. What did you learn about it that impacted you the most?

Honestly, just that it existed and was a common feature of some peoples' lives. I grew up feeling very outcast. I grew up in a town of less than 50, in a super poor, rural part of the US. My interests were outdoors related, but not guns and god like everyone around me. I was more interested in learning about natural systems and the interplay of wild plants and animals and humans in the world. I never 'fit in' anywher…

Interesting, thanks for sharing.
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