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Is this actually a concern amid a global IT skills shortage? Get the impression that this seems to be mainly gifted students having less of a chance of getting their dream job.
Well, that would inevitably filter down. Gifted students take regular jobs. Regular students take lousy jobs, if they can find jobs at all.
> A Boston native, Ms. Singer graduated from Brown University with a degree in comparative literature and has a master's degree in creative writing from Boston University. > Ms. Huang is from New York and graduated from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with a degree in statistics. I’m so darn tired of reading front page articles written largely by liberal arts folks that never worked in tech that never…
For example, one could say, I'm tired of the top comment on HN always being some rando who knows nothing about journalism and attacks both the publication and the writer in an effort to garner credibility.
> A Boston native, Ms. Singer graduated from Brown University with a degree in comparative literature and has a master's degree in creative writing from Boston University. > Ms. Huang is from New York and graduated from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with a degree in statistics. I’m so darn tired of reading front page articles written largely by liberal arts folks that never worked in tech that never…
It is pretty poor form to attack the author. For example, one could say, I'm tired of the top comment on HN always being some rando who knows nothing about journalism and attacks both the publication and the writer in an effort to garner credibility.
I called out the authors because they aren’t some big (or even small) tech contributors turned journalist. They might be great writers but they aren’t providing very good commentary on tech from a knowledgeable tech insider perspective.
This journalism sucks pretty badly; it’s frankly bad for tech and it’s bad for journalism too. I wish I hadn’t called them out by name after some reflection based on your comment but I was frustrated with the article and it is what it is.
Poor new grads may have to settle for a non-MAANG job like the rest of us.
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It is pretty poor form to attack the author. For example, one could say, I'm tired of the top comment on HN always being some rando who knows nothing about journalism and attacks both the publication and the writer in an effort to garner credibility.
The last sentence I wrote agrees with what you just said. The great writers are rarely good sources of tech commentary and even moderately decent tech contributors are rarely good writers. I’m not sure what you’re trying to start here but it’s not working. I called out the authors because they aren’t some big (or even small) tech contributors turned journalist. They might be great writers but they aren’t providing ve…
I am making a point about Hacker News comments by taking a meta perspective on your post.
But let's focus on a specific criticism: what I took from the article is that the job market is shrinking and the evidence is that job offers and internships rescinded. We also know about broad layoffs.
It would be interesting to hear your claims as a "knowledgeable tech insider" then a rant on journalism in general.
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The last sentence I wrote agrees with what you just said. The great writers are rarely good sources of tech commentary and even moderately decent tech contributors are rarely good writers. I’m not sure what you’re trying to start here but it’s not working. I called out the authors because they aren’t some big (or even small) tech contributors turned journalist. They might be great writers but they aren’t providing ve…
>I’m not sure what you’re trying to start here but it’s not working. I am making a point about Hacker News comments by taking a meta perspective on your post. But let's focus on a specific criticism: what I took from the article is that the job market is shrinking and the evidence is that job offers and internships rescinded. We also know about broad layoffs. It would be interesting to hear your claims as a "knowledg…
I’d argue this take isn’t a particularly insightful bit of tech journalism, and what I didn’t like about the article is that it relied on too much anecdotal evidence. There’s still a massive number of CS grads that are finding great paying great jobs. I felt it paints a dire picture based on a few interviews where in reality most CS grads even now probably have it better than grads of most other fields had it even in the “good times.”
> It would be interesting to hear your claims as a "knowledgeable tech insider" then a rant on journalism in general.
I have to start by saying it’s not fair or accurate to equate a dislike of the lacking quality of most tech journalism as a general rant on all journalism.
That said, in the space I work in (that has a lot of systems, compilers and algo work involved) the hiring both for new grads and experienced folks is still quite strong. What I see on the ground is far less extreme than what the article says.
I'm finding this to be frequently true but not so sure once the "evil" ChatGPT takes over.
Perhaps, it's time to make a Turing Test browser app?
> A Boston native, Ms. Singer graduated from Brown University with a degree in comparative literature and has a master's degree in creative writing from Boston University. > Ms. Huang is from New York and graduated from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with a degree in statistics. I’m so darn tired of reading front page articles written largely by liberal arts folks that never worked in tech that never…
Journalists can research industries and talk about job trends without having worked in those jobs. Assuming, of course, the journalist hasn't worked in tech. Which is quite an assumption.
My liberal arts background has helped me write blog posts, product documentation, and runbooks. It's also helped me thrive in a tech role at a FAANG.
I'm really tired of this trope that liberal arts degrees are worthless and you can't work in tech unless you have a CS or EE degree.
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>I’m not sure what you’re trying to start here but it’s not working. I am making a point about Hacker News comments by taking a meta perspective on your post. But let's focus on a specific criticism: what I took from the article is that the job market is shrinking and the evidence is that job offers and internships rescinded. We also know about broad layoffs. It would be interesting to hear your claims as a "knowledg…
> But let's focus on a specific criticism: what I took from the article is that the job market is shrinking and the evidence is that job offers and internships rescinded. We also know about broad layoffs. I’d argue this take isn’t a particularly insightful bit of tech journalism, and what I didn’t like about the article is that it relied on too much anecdotal evidence. There’s still a massive number of CS grads that…
I would agree and that is a valid criticism. Imagine you are not a CS grad, you may also be impacted by layoffs and hiring freezes in tech. But outside of tech the story may be different. It may be different at non FAANG tech companies as well. From what I heard on NPR the most recent jobs report still shows robust hiring which likely means the Fed will keep raising interest rates. Also the article mentioned that the profiled CS grads were expanding their job search outside of the big tech companies in general.