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Tor Browser 12.0

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Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#11

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

Maybe this could be a good thing for business development?

Could we convert our "observers" into early customers?

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#12

I'm surprised that they haven't bundled Arti, their Rust-based tor client implementation. I will say I am thankful for Tor Browser, but any JavaScript-enabled browser seems like the wrong choice for privacy and security.

I've basically come to the same conclusion having attempted to use a lot of Tor Browser's default config in Firefox. Most of it is a good idea, but trying to be untrackable while JavaScript is turned on seems futile. Every single browser's APIs are leaky as hell. No matter how many things are turned off or obfuscated, there's always a few unique-ish details that are exposed that create a fingerprint. There was one po…

My default browser is Librewolf with JavaScript turned off. If a page fails to load correctly, I reopen it in Firefox private browsing mode (or, if it still fails, Chrome incognito mode). If it’s a site I expect to come back to in future, I bookmark it in Firefox and assign it its own container using the Multi-Account Containers extension.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#13

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

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Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#14

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

The Brave browser has around 60 million MAUs and has Tor bundled with it, so Tor traffic is unlikely to stand out as much as before.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#16

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

The Brave browser has around 60 million MAUs and has Tor bundled with it, so Tor traffic is unlikely to stand out as much as before.

I believe the Tor feature of Brave is an optional setting, so I assume only a small fraction of their MAU use it.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#17

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

While this is true, it shouldn't make anyone more worthy of a closer look. It's the same argument used to justify mass surveillance. Trying to defend a Constitutional right to privacy, if one exists in your country, does not mean you are automatically trying to hide doing something wrong.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#18

The inescapable fact about Tor is that its traffic patterns make you stand out prominently. Just the fact you’re using it automatically makes you interesting and worthy of a closer look. All well and good if you’re just maintaining a cookie recipe site on the dark web, but it’s rarely ever that, is it?

Also you are providing cover to agents of US intelligence who use it

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#19

Just FYI that HN is very anti-tor. I made this account via Tor just now to prove the point. It will be dead by default (unless someone "vouches" for it). It's a very user-hostile stance that HN takes (along with not letting you delete your account). It really makes you wonder what they're doing with all this data? Doxxing is almost a given.

Or they realize that letting Tor users makes spam explode.

Re: Tor Browser 12.0

#20

Just FYI that HN is very anti-tor. I made this account via Tor just now to prove the point. It will be dead by default (unless someone "vouches" for it). It's a very user-hostile stance that HN takes (along with not letting you delete your account). It really makes you wonder what they're doing with all this data? Doxxing is almost a given.

most sites seem to treat Tor poorly, possibly due to abuse. well-used VPNs also can suffer from Google captchas etc. not that I like that fact, but it seems to be inescapable
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