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I don’t want to be an internet person

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#81
It's fine whether or not you want to be "online" or "offline" - you just need to understand that the basic currency is different.

If you think being an online person is some horrible thing or a marker of being a bad person, you just value different things. The kinds of people in TFA are selected for by merit of not living up to your offline standards in one way or another.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#82

I'm pretty sure this generalizes to everything. People who cultivate a persona in any sub-culture or domain seem to be a fish out of water when confronted in a different context. Take someone from the rave scene and plop them down in a microbrewery bar and everyone will gawk at the brightly colored fidgety person that has no idea what to order. Take a polished SV entrepreneur and deposit them in an Idaho roadhouse an…

Yeah, this is the kind of article that should be written by an open-minded anthropologist, not a Stanford grad intent on being opinionated. Unfortunately, every time a "hit piece" like this gets published, it makes the Internet just a little bit less weird and amenable to interesting subcultures.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#83

I thought this sounded familiar, and sure enough[1]. Edit: To make it explicit, which Palladium notably fails to do: this person is a reactionary and has a history of encouraging young girls to commit suicide. [1]: https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=founder-of-milady-nft-proje...

CharlotteFang literally admitted to being Miya on their own Twitter, the link is right in the page linked by GP.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#84

"All my friends are online. Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet?" Yes. But they really weren't your friends to begin with, so it doesn't matter.

I see this a lot, but is it actually true? Friendships are built on a shared interest / shared activities, and frequent contact. When you stop using the communication medium your friends use, then you just added friction to reach you, which stops frequent contact. you slowly go from a friend to an old friend or a distant old friend. There is a reason that when you move, its a lot harder to keep up with your old neigh…

I think it is more implying that friends that you have exclusively online are more of psuedo-friends than real friends. Especially if they make no effort to continue communication after you stop using whatever form of social media you were using before.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how did your parents became Mr. and Mrs. Smith? In all the countries the "family" name for the hoi polloi was mandated once the state consolidated. Before, your father's grand^x-father, who was a blacksmith, was simply known, for the Dunbar's number of people who knew him, as 'John, the blacksmith', maybe 'John, Mary's son' if there were two Johns around. Look at how most of the Scandinavian "family" names end in…

There's an amusing anecdote that does the rounds about Napoleon mandating a national register in the Netherlands, and the Dutch not taking kindly to that by registering using all kinds of silly names. Unfortunately for them the register stuck and centuries later there's people going through life being called "John Big Buttocks" and such. Amusing but alas, from when I looked into it it seemed like it was made up.

Not amusing, but true, is the story of Willem Arondeus [1], who in 1943 destroyed 800,000 identity cards from the Municipal Office for Population Registration in Nazi-occupied Netherlands in order to increase the efficiency of forged documents. The state power, murderous or not, is the sole beneficiary of the "family" name.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Arondeus

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#86
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The worst thing about these people isn't that they're shitty edgelords spouting nonsensical gobbledygook about NFTs like they've discovered fire. The worst thing about them is that they're uniformly boring in every conceivable way. Great, some submillennial has made his own version of ZooTV on a dying social network. That must be terribly exciting if you've never seen any media ever that came out before Gossip Girl.…

> they're uniformly boring in every conceivable way This is such concise and brutally accurate way to sum it up, I salute you for this brilliant description. I could not agree more, such a spot-on assertion!

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not pedantic at all. I've consciously decided I will favor Real Life over the Internet as much as possible. I really believe the meme that Nothing Happens On The Internet; it's a projection of the Real World and as people we are very susceptible to confusing the map for the territory. From the article: > You can close the computer, but the world will go on without you. Even if culture decides that the Internet…

There's some real value in social circles around games. Even if accomplishing things in game might be seen as a nothing, those social ties can be real.

Yes. Because the game is the medium for connection, and overcoming challenges in a group of people who want to do that is pretty magical. GitHub is similar in the sense that people have a shared, common goal. I love stuff like that.

Most traditional social media doesn’t work as well for me. I need an underlying common goal.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#88

I thought this sounded familiar, and sure enough[1]. Edit: To make it explicit, which Palladium notably fails to do: this person is a reactionary and has a history of encouraging young girls to commit suicide. [1]: https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=founder-of-milady-nft-proje...

>While CharlotteFang may be termed something close to reactionary (if your IQ is low and you can only think of 3 or 4 political archetypes)

I would put them more in the neo-Nazi / pseudo-Esoteric Hitlerist archetype (https://archive.ph/qlYqD):

>How to save a nation in 5 steps:

>First, you kill the Jews, who always seek to ruin and exploit other nations.

>Then, you remove any peoples who are not native to the country in question*.

>Then, you remove any vestigial influence left by the Jews, either by re-education, physical removal or otherwise. This includes everything under the cultural marxist platform: feminism, homosexuality, "sexual revolution," etc.

>Then, you will work to re-coup and re-discover any heritage that may have been lost due to Jewish influence. You will work to carefully modernize your country based on the principles traditional to its native culture.

>Now you may allow non-natives into the country but with limited rights on a temporary basis. Other peoples and countries will not be discriminated against, they will each be considered meritable under their own culture; but nothing will be done to draw their influence into the country's own identity.

And before one argues this was edgy rusing and meming and LARPing and all that, CharlotteFang/Miya was an active, long-time moderator and owner of several 8chan /pol/ offshoot imageboard websites and boards, as well as a heavy poster on the original 8chan /pol/, all of which have connections to neo-Nazi mass shootings, including one attempted mass shooting of a synagogue (who Miya and friends affectionately refer to as "doorcuck" because he failed to breach the door of the synagogue and resigned himself to murdering some nearby civilians instead).

Plus a perusal of their old Twitter makes it very obvious exactly where their sympathies lie. It's all Savitri Devi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi) type stuff.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#89

I thought this sounded familiar, and sure enough[1]. Edit: To make it explicit, which Palladium notably fails to do: this person is a reactionary and has a history of encouraging young girls to commit suicide. [1]: https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=founder-of-milady-nft-proje...

This person admitted[1] to being the same person behind the Miya account. The posts made by that Miya account (they are public record, and has been archived since a long time by different accounts, see [2]) include :

- calls for the extermination of Jews

- calling homosexuality an "epidemic" and perversion

- saying that "since we gave vote to *** we should give to gorillas too"

- things like "a husband is to his wife what a parent is to their child"

- asking counsel for "mind controlling an egirl slave harem"

- boasting about bullying persons about their weight

How is that "close to reactionary" ? This is extremely grave behavior. I have friends that have suffered a lot from this community, have witnessed their posts myself at the time they were made, and I cannot even begin to comprehend how could someone call that "close to reactionary if your IQ is low [...]" and end that with "DYOR". It hurts a lot to see that comment, and it makes me feel extremely uneasy to see these posts, especially one on "I don't want to be an Internet person" upvoted to the front page of HN. I don't know how to describe it, but there's something really nasty going on here.

[1]: https://mobile.twitter.com/CharlotteFang77/status/1527987970... [2]: https://github.com/0xngmi/milady

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

#90
Author seems a little too close? For me, the big takeaway is how it represents the superficiality that happens here? Like, this whole thing wants to be genuinely cool/Gibson-ish, but I can't get over the banality of it all.

I was poking around some of the content and it's just so blah, in terms of how they're just taking a laundry list of every hot button issue and then asking, "okay, how can I troll it?" -- revealing no core underneath.

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