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Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

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Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

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This may be a "culture gap" (or language gap) between crypto and traditional finance. The FT text directly addresses the question that we're told "No one [is] asking." They asked where's the money, and they're exposing the fact that no coherent response has been forthcoming. That's reporting. The likely interpretation of that piece of reporting is crystal clear to the intended readership. (I.e., the money is probably…

The main thing people claim Tether does is: 1. pretend to have customers 2. pretend those customers have deposits 3. issue Tether to front those deposits 4. pump up their favorite coins with their newly minted Tethers My first suspicion would be that FTX was more fraudulent to its investors than people claim. It pretended to have a lot more customers & deposits than it actually did to pump up FTT, to get real money f…

It's actually much, much worse than that. Tether, by misrepresenting its reserves, essentially "prints" money by faking the peg. This was already done in the overnight lending markets by huge financial institutions abusing the fractional reserve system, but at least there's a tiny facade of regulation on that side.*

*https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo224388...

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#52

This may be a "culture gap" (or language gap) between crypto and traditional finance. The FT text directly addresses the question that we're told "No one [is] asking." They asked where's the money, and they're exposing the fact that no coherent response has been forthcoming. That's reporting. The likely interpretation of that piece of reporting is crystal clear to the intended readership. (I.e., the money is probably…

The main thing people claim Tether does is: 1. pretend to have customers 2. pretend those customers have deposits 3. issue Tether to front those deposits 4. pump up their favorite coins with their newly minted Tethers My first suspicion would be that FTX was more fraudulent to its investors than people claim. It pretended to have a lot more customers & deposits than it actually did to pump up FTT, to get real money f…

What? How does Tether come into this? How is it related to FTX?

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#53
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is another good reason for prosecutors not to be pressing him right now! Why not just let him keep running his mouth?

Doesn't sound like a consideration law enforcement has or should have... They either have something to get him for or not. And he might have connections or not. They wont have people that did crime running around just in case they reveal something more...

You don't think law enforcement considers whether it has enough evidence for a conviction prior to arresting someone, especially if that person is 1) actively producing more evidence of the crime by the minute, 2) not apparently a flight risk, and 3) not actively further harming the public?

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#54

This may be a "culture gap" (or language gap) between crypto and traditional finance. The FT text directly addresses the question that we're told "No one [is] asking." They asked where's the money, and they're exposing the fact that no coherent response has been forthcoming. That's reporting. The likely interpretation of that piece of reporting is crystal clear to the intended readership. (I.e., the money is probably…

Your interpretation here is very kind. I really don’t understand how anyone can read this and think it somehow indicates we’re “supposed to believe SBF’s claims”.

Bankman-Fried deflected the FT’s questions about the excessive borrowing and soured investments that ultimately sank Alameda, blowing a hole in FTX’s finances, and would not be drawn on the legal consequences he may face. He said he deliberately avoided getting involved in Alameda’s trading and risk management to avoid conflicts with his position as chief executive of FTX, and neglected to monitor the risk they posed to the exchange.

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#55
post #7

Coffeezilla asked him about it I believe. https://youtu.be/AfmBdKoqq1o

And he seems to be the only one asking SBF the hard questions and not accepting his BS meaningless answers. It's quite disappointing to see an independent YouTuber doing better journalism than major news outlets.

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#56

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Seems to me people have completely unrealistic expectations of how financial crimes play out. This will take years to unwind. Pretty obvious the "why isn't he in jail yet" screaming is coming from the same place as "why aren't I rich yet," on which this entire empire was built. This stuff takes time. He's very obviously going to prison. For context: Enron, whose operations and collapse caused way more negative impact…

It sounds like you probably know what you're talking about. That's going to cost you karma points.

Hmmm

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#58

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Correct - the "everyone" is mainly NYT and some politicians. There are some questions there as it's a bit sketchy why they're treating him with such kid gloves.

Seems to me people have completely unrealistic expectations of how financial crimes play out. This will take years to unwind. Pretty obvious the "why isn't he in jail yet" screaming is coming from the same place as "why aren't I rich yet," on which this entire empire was built. This stuff takes time. He's very obviously going to prison. For context: Enron, whose operations and collapse caused way more negative impact…

Exactly. Another example is Martha Stewart, who engaged in insider trading in 2001 but who didn't go to prison till 2004.

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct - the "everyone" is mainly NYT and some politicians. There are some questions there as it's a bit sketchy why they're treating him with such kid gloves.

Seems to me people have completely unrealistic expectations of how financial crimes play out. This will take years to unwind. Pretty obvious the "why isn't he in jail yet" screaming is coming from the same place as "why aren't I rich yet," on which this entire empire was built. This stuff takes time. He's very obviously going to prison. For context: Enron, whose operations and collapse caused way more negative impact…

Look how long it took for Holmes to be put on trial.

Re: Why Is No One Asking SFB What Happened to the $3.3B He Borrowed?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct - the "everyone" is mainly NYT and some politicians. There are some questions there as it's a bit sketchy why they're treating him with such kid gloves.

Seems to me people have completely unrealistic expectations of how financial crimes play out. This will take years to unwind. Pretty obvious the "why isn't he in jail yet" screaming is coming from the same place as "why aren't I rich yet," on which this entire empire was built. This stuff takes time. He's very obviously going to prison. For context: Enron, whose operations and collapse caused way more negative impact…

Is the media tour a defense plan? Anyone who might be a decent juror is now exposed to news of the crime and prejudice against him.
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