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Re: Mac OS 9

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post #115

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> As amazing as OSX seemed when it was launched This reminds me: There was pretty interesting community of Linux users customizing X11 desktops in the late 90s and the very early 2000s... When the first screenshots and demos of OS X and Aqua came out, almost immediately, people tried to imitate that.

I remember WindowBlinds and an MP3 utility (but just vaguely) that used a theme similar to Aqua on Windows.

There were/are Winamp themes that looked like Aqua.

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #60

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I love the purple color used in the "Platinum" interface theme in Mac OS 8/9, even the scrollbar is purple: https://i.imgur.com/WwFdpJH.png They even offered a crazy "Memphis" art themed option: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLWbFUG_ig "High-tech" wasn't very pretty either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBUgDnPT8Ps https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Appearance_Manage...

I love that color too. Fun trivia that I discovered doing pixel art way back then: That color is blue. It appears purplish, but it's actually a desaturated blue with hue right at 240°. Something about the lack of saturation and brightness gives it a purplish cast.

It’s funny how mixing pure blue (#0000ff) with pure white (#ffffff) makes it look a little purple, and how you also have the exact same problem when you invert the colors - mixing pure yellow (#ffff00) with pure black (#000000) makes it look sort of green (the complementary color to purple). In both cases you have to adjust the green channel a little “faster” and the red a little “slower” to get something that looks more neutral, ie shift the light blue towards cyan and the dark yellow towards red.

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #218

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It’s interesting: my recollection of that period was I rarely stored anything on the desktop. The file system was so much smaller and easier to handle that I stored things in folders and didn’t have trouble finding them again. Not until OS X did I pick up the desktop-as-staging-area habit because navigation was so painful.

But then how do you easily navigate / launch apps? Dig thru your folder trees each time in Finder? Most apps I’m finding have folder structures with a bunch of aux files. It’s not so seemless as a dock or even a start menu. Back even then I used my desktop heavily too.

The Apple menu top left is the start menu, you organize it however you want.

Re: Mac OS 9

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Not a Mac user. Figured this was a new announcement. Clicked and then remembered -- I was at a "System 7" launch as a youngster, 30+ years to get a couple version would be very, very slow.

when mac os X was announced they said "we're done with the versions! forever!" and it took them about 16 years to start incrementing the versions again. I get announcements from a discord server about mac OS checkpoint releases and they're over version 15 now, i think. edit to add: also when windows 10 came out microsoft was like "we're done with the versions! forever!" and then a couple years later "windows 11!"

I wonder if any company is successfully keeping any of its "forever" promises. ("unlimited gmail storage") -- I guess Costco's hot dog price is still holding strong.

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #187

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That's a distinction without a difference. Running JS is slower than native. The user of JS cares about the real world speed of emulating a quadra machine, which is shown as very slow at this webpage.

This conversation went on a tangent. It started off with people complaining about modern GUIs then moved onto Outlook and then someone rushes to blame JavaScript / Electron. JS runs 50-80% as fast as native, which is more than fast enough thanks to Moore's law, for virtually any GUI application. The web has a reputation for being slow, thanks to a traditional lack of GPU acceleration as well as 25 years of legacy cod…

> This conversation went on a tangent.

The discussion was to answer, "And why is everything just so slow!"

> The web has a reputation for being slow, thanks to a traditional lack of GPU acceleration as well as 25 years of legacy code attached to its Document Object Model, that are pretty gnarly for browser vendors to deal with. That has nothing to do with JS itself.

That's not exactly true, though, as many discussions here on HN have demonstrated. The web is not slow due to, "a traditional lack of GPU acceleration." The DOM is the execution environment of JS in the browser. This isn't a discussion about JS in any other environment.

While you may have a vested interest in JS, that doesn't change its properties. Please, let's get back to the actual discussion.

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #119

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Thankfully to having multi-process architecture with enough of those services written in a mix of C#, Rust and C++.

Vast majority of the codebase is Typescript: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/tree/main/src . Only thing I could find written in Rust was the CLI. Sure, under the hood Electron is powered by Chromium V8 (which also powers Node.js), which is written in C++. But that is just the basic packages and services available to all Electron desktop and Node.js apps.

See ripgrep, and Microsoft plugins that have to be additionally installed, depending on the workloads.

Re: Mac OS 9

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OS9 was really just 8.7 but, as you describe, a stepping stone towards 10, both numerically and with a few nods to the future, e.g. Keychain Access, CarbonLib, and file/printer sharing over TCP.

Carbon worked all the way back with Mac OS 8.1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_(API)

Carbon was a moving target; each "update" cut more core MacOS tools and added OSX service interfaces. It was quickly obvious that there was no intention of letting MacOS run in the future, so why port to Carbon? many social signals in the developer group at the same time.

Re: Mac OS 9

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Not a fan of the new trend of zero window borders. I wish there was at least a way to make them customizable.

You can turn on Increase Contrast from the OSX System Preferences Accessibility section. I do that for this exact reason.

Trying it now, thanks!

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #165

I'm the creator of the site, thanks for the submission. This is an in-progress port of the SheepShaver emulator to WebAssembly/Emscripten, https://github.com/mihaip/infinite-mac/issues/34 is tracking the remaining work. If you're interested in running older Mac software in the browser, the BasiliskII-based sites at https://system7.app/ and https://macos8.app/ may be better bets. They will boot faster and have fewer c…

wine em, dine em, OS 9 em!

Re: Mac OS 9

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post #165

I'm the creator of the site, thanks for the submission. This is an in-progress port of the SheepShaver emulator to WebAssembly/Emscripten, https://github.com/mihaip/infinite-mac/issues/34 is tracking the remaining work. If you're interested in running older Mac software in the browser, the BasiliskII-based sites at https://system7.app/ and https://macos8.app/ may be better bets. They will boot faster and have fewer c…

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