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It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by bowsamic »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #11
gary_0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It read like parody to me at first, but I verified the domain[0] and it's not. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University_Press

This has been a thing for a while. https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/ It's status as illness though, let alone mass-illness is dubious at best.

If you can't voluntarily stop it and it's causing negative effects to your quality of life then why can't it be called an illness? These people aren't going to get professional help just for the fun of it

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by ccity88 »

What's interesting to me is that if we're able to accept the idea that mass social media-induced illness can be developed just by virtue of video watching TikTok or YouTube, then this opens new doors to examining the behaviour of other illnesses such as gender dysphoria that are statistically over represented. This is probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, because nobody wants to confront the idea that we can _learn_ to want to be another gender. But I think there's some interesting parallels to be observed here, and discounting that based on "moral virtue" or "denying hate speech" or whatever i'll be attacked with is just moving the target.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

From my reading of the article (which is hard to parse not being an expert) it seems there is a German YouTuber with Tourette's who also on his YouTube shows displays non-tourette's tics. And these tics are being copied by other young people watching his shows, and being presented as Tourette's until they arrive at the clinic where these experts go "hang on this kid does not have Tourette's but does have tics similar to the German youtuber above"

So, the weird thing is not they pick up someone else's tics but they cannot get rid of them.

Learnt behaviour, copying, or physical tics that once learnt get stuck in the brain?

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by Veen »

mathgeek wrote: post #29
gadders wrote: post #26

I don't think this is the only mass sociogenic illness affecting young girls currently....

Care to elaborate? As written, your comment can come off as rather ageist/sexist, which is a shame if you meant a specific trend.

I imagine many people have a specific phenomenon in mind which they will avoid mentioning because it's considered impolite and impolitic.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by HPsquared »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #7

> mass sociogenic illness > Over the past 2 years, a remarkably high number of young patients have been referred to our specialized Tourette outpatient clinic > A large number of young people across different countries How many exactly? Without numbers, calling it mass-anything is blowing this way out of proportion. So called fakeDisorderCringe has been a thing for a while, thanks to TikTok. But is there any sign tha…

If it's an unconscious thing which transfers into "real life", that seems potentially important. It raises the question of what other unconscious behaviours (potentially harmful) are picked up in a similar way? Definitely an interesting starting point for further research.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by maxbond »

lzaaz wrote: post #32
hanoz wrote: post #27

Wow. So now that I know that mass sociogenic illness is a thing, where do I draw the line in applying that label?

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If it's not worth saying, it's not worth vagueposting about either.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by gadders »

mathgeek wrote: post #29
gadders wrote: post #26

I don't think this is the only mass sociogenic illness affecting young girls currently....

Care to elaborate? As written, your comment can come off as rather ageist/sexist, which is a shame if you meant a specific trend.

Fuck it, I'll take the karma hit. I am of course referring to young girls identifying as male/non-binary.

I'm sure some of the cases are genuine, but not all. And I'm not saying these girls aren't troubled or have other things going on that they need help with.

Re: It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass sociogenic illness

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Post by poulpy123 »

ccity88 wrote: post #33

What's interesting to me is that if we're able to accept the idea that mass social media-induced illness can be developed just by virtue of video watching TikTok or YouTube, then this opens new doors to examining the behaviour of other illnesses such as gender dysphoria that are statistically over represented. This is probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, because nobody wants to confront the idea that we can _…

Didn't a researcher shown that's it was indeed the case ?
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