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One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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"we do everything by hand" ... proceeds to demonstrate large churning machine (: No, I know they're doing a much more manual process than most such factories. I think even the Amish use automation for churning. For reference though, 380 tons is actually a smallish number. Seems France produces about 1000x that much in total, per year, not to mention other countries.

> 380 tons is actually a smallish number

Um, did anyone think any different??

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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"we do everything by hand" ... proceeds to demonstrate large churning machine (: No, I know they're doing a much more manual process than most such factories. I think even the Amish use automation for churning. For reference though, 380 tons is actually a smallish number. Seems France produces about 1000x that much in total, per year, not to mention other countries.

By hand usually means using machinery to do something the traditional way. People can do very little without machines.

The difference is that it’s not a mass production process that usually requires special chemicals and treatments to keep the ingredients in certain state to run high speed high yield process.

It’s like the hand made toys that are actually made using power tools, knives, hammers etc.

as long as you don’t alter the process but just get help from machines to speed up things or increase yields, it’s handmade.

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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Once you get a product, like Camembert, or a wine like Burgundy, with a big AOP apparatus around it, there is little room for experimentation. In Burgundy you can't plant anything except Chardonnay for white wine that's going to be labeled Burgundy. Someone has an idea that sauvignon blanc might do well in a famous vineyard? Too bad, instead of Grand Cru Burgundy you're going to have to sell it as generic "Vin de Fra…

>Bordier is rightly famous Oh, the smoked butter (sel fumé) from a small specialist farm in Bretagne.. stuff of dreams.

Beurre fumé or sel fumé? (Is the salted butter itself smoked, or is it butter made with smoked salt?)

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I mean, it’s the same reason you can’t find a great mission burrito in Paris. Every city has its own food culture.

I mean, I'm not complaining that our foie gras is lacking, or our sushi's not very good. Bread's pretty important across a lot of cuisines and my city's bizarrely terrible at it, for some reason. Zero places here make really good bread, and the few that achieve "OK" charge so much one hesitates to eat it, rather than preserving it in a display case to impress guests.

What do you expect from a country that came up with the saying "best thing since sliced bread", when sliced bread is the worst :)

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Yeah the food situation in the US is pretty sad. I rmb going there in an exchange and the family dad beeming with pride "look I bought you a French baguette", and suffice to say... it was neither French nor a baguette lol. It barely qualified as food for animals.

I live in a US city with a population over 2,000,000 that's seemingly incapable of producing what would be a very mediocre loaf of bread in Paris, for under $12. Actually-good bread simply cannot be had—there isn't any. One consequence of this is that it's impossible to get a decent sandwich here for anything but crazy-high prices. And don't get me started on the croissant situation. Ugh. They're all too-big and disg…

I have been to the USA only twice, to San Francisco and to New York, and the absence of flavour and substance in the food is what really stuck with me. Everything was so bland and generic and non filling. The two only exceptions were a cheesecake at the Cheesecake Factory, and a chowder in some small fish shop. And the latter only because I never had it before.

I can really imagine all portions being over sized and saturated with fat and sugar in an attempt to (over) compensate with all its consequences.

And yes, proper fresh French baguette is worth a meal on its own.

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| crystallizing can you please explain what you mean by this?

They probably mean that the certification requires very rigid processes which means any variation would not get the stamp of approval so innovation and experimentation is discouraged.

There are plenty of examples where the young renegades veered off and produced their own products in an AOC or DOC region. It just means the onus of marketing is upon themselves.

It just makes more sense to create a brand that binds hundreds of producers together by standards. Everyone on average is better off.

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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yesss I love Bordier, showed this to my partner recently to explain to her why I love nice imported French butters. Traveling there really made me fall in love with French food and the mentality behind a lot of it. Part of what Europe does right is its legal certification process for traditionally made foods, "protected designation of origin" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_designation_of_origi... ). At nic…

> At nicer import stores you can find San Marzano tomatoes with a DOP stamp

I can get these at Costco

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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>Bordier is rightly famous Oh, the smoked butter (sel fumé) from a small specialist farm in Bretagne.. stuff of dreams.

Beurre fumé or sel fumé? (Is the salted butter itself smoked, or is it butter made with smoked salt?)

I believe it's sel fumé: salted butter, using smoked salt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_salt

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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I just want to dip a spoon in at every step and sample it.

About two years ago I bought just about every butter at the local grocery and started sampling them. (COVID hobby i guess) and it completely changed my relationship with butter. I found a few that were clear favorites...to the point where one of them I can slice off a thin pat and just eat it neat.

Butter in the abstract is loved, but somehow it has been relegated to commodity status (at least around here). It's fun digging into it and realizing there's a whole landscape out there.

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