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One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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Meanwhile there's a cream shortage here on the east coast US! The price of cream has gone up substantially and was entirely unavailable during Thanksgiving weekend in my local area. No heavy or light cream whatsoever at any store. And now it's 2.5x the price it usually is.

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Very fun to see this here ! I've been to Bordier's shop in St Malo, they do make lovely butter. If you know a bit about France and Brittany, you'll know that "les bretons" are very much fond of their butter. Check out how they make the famous kouign amann and if you get a chance, do have a taste if the quantities of sugar and butter don't put you off ;-)

Btw, is salted butter a Brittany thing ? Here in my local epicerie in Paris suburb, can only find "Demi-sel" :(

The three basic butters would be "doux" (unsalted), "demi-sel" and "salé" although the latter does seem to be harder to find in your run-of-the-mill markets and epiceries outside of Brittany.

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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"we do everything by hand" ... proceeds to demonstrate large churning machine (: No, I know they're doing a much more manual process than most such factories. I think even the Amish use automation for churning. For reference though, 380 tons is actually a smallish number. Seems France produces about 1000x that much in total, per year, not to mention other countries.

I was thinking the same thing. It’s a bit over a ton a day, which is 250 gallons of milk (well, probably a bit more assuming that it takes more than a pound of milk to make a pound of butter). Kind of like the scene in the first Austin Powers movie where Doctor Evil demands ONE MILLION DOLLARS! and the world leaders laugh.

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Meanwhile there's a cream shortage here on the east coast US! The price of cream has gone up substantially and was entirely unavailable during Thanksgiving weekend in my local area. No heavy or light cream whatsoever at any store. And now it's 2.5x the price it usually is.

It’s amazing how local diary still is for many things.

During covid my parents could barely get milk and meanwhile we were drowning in it.

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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I live in a US city with a population over 2,000,000 that's seemingly incapable of producing what would be a very mediocre loaf of bread in Paris, for under $12. Actually-good bread simply cannot be had—there isn't any. One consequence of this is that it's impossible to get a decent sandwich here for anything but crazy-high prices. And don't get me started on the croissant situation. Ugh. They're all too-big and disg…

It's been 35 years since the price of baguette is no more regulated in France.

Perhaps my French-born French professor had outdated information :-) I did find the prices to be notably low and identical everywhere when I visited, but maybe that's more a kind of cultural habit or expectation, than law, these days.

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| crystallizing can you please explain what you mean by this?

Once you get a product, like Camembert, or a wine like Burgundy, with a big AOP apparatus around it, there is little room for experimentation. In Burgundy you can't plant anything except Chardonnay for white wine that's going to be labeled Burgundy. Someone has an idea that sauvignon blanc might do well in a famous vineyard? Too bad, instead of Grand Cru Burgundy you're going to have to sell it as generic "Vin de Fra…

>Bordier is rightly famous

Oh, the smoked butter (sel fumé) from a small specialist farm in Bretagne.. stuff of dreams.

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Meanwhile there's a cream shortage here on the east coast US! The price of cream has gone up substantially and was entirely unavailable during Thanksgiving weekend in my local area. No heavy or light cream whatsoever at any store. And now it's 2.5x the price it usually is.

It’s amazing how local diary still is for many things. During covid my parents could barely get milk and meanwhile we were drowning in it.

Even worse - dairy farms here had to dump milk due to overproduction because there wasn't enough capacity for milk processing to turn into cream and other products. Something is really broken in dairy supply chain and the production lines here. Cream is still not available in our region and hasn't been for months.

Some crazy stuff in this article by an Ag producer: https://agmoos.com/2021/12/10/supply-and-demand-are-the-real...

And competition between cheese, cream, ice cream makers for tight milk availability: https://nypost.com/2022/10/03/heres-why-the-us-is-facing-a-b...

Re: One of France's oldest butter producers makes 380 tons per year [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a US city with a population over 2,000,000 that's seemingly incapable of producing what would be a very mediocre loaf of bread in Paris, for under $12. Actually-good bread simply cannot be had—there isn't any. One consequence of this is that it's impossible to get a decent sandwich here for anything but crazy-high prices. And don't get me started on the croissant situation. Ugh. They're all too-big and disg…

I am a fellow USian, who is haunted by the first good baguette they had. Paris, December 2012. Only half of the loaf made it to the hostel. I still vividly remember how it felt to tear that first piece off of it, the delicacy of the crust, the crumb, the warmth and aroma. I remember it better than the first time I had sex, not a joke.

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It’s amazing how local diary still is for many things. During covid my parents could barely get milk and meanwhile we were drowning in it.

Even worse - dairy farms here had to dump milk due to overproduction because there wasn't enough capacity for milk processing to turn into cream and other products. Something is really broken in dairy supply chain and the production lines here. Cream is still not available in our region and hasn't been for months. Some crazy stuff in this article by an Ag producer: https://agmoos.com/2021/12/10/supply-and-demand-are-…

Yeah, and I'm not sure all of those things can be effectively shipped very far (perhaps cheese and ice cream).

Around here milk is a bit higher than before, but there's no shortages of anything cow related.

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