Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA • Hacker News Board

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by marshray » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:22 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #105

The question is now, if they do not "support" SOPA, willthey comply with any SOPA related domain takedowns should SOPA pass? Sure, they don't overtly claim to support this law - but their actions after the fact shall really show whats going on inside. Anyone recall when Earthlink was the only company to refuse to comply with allowing Carnivore boxes in its network? Even though Earthlink, as a Scientologist founded pr…

The lone whistle-blowing engineer, the EFF, Wired mag, and others stood up to AT&T. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/01/70126

The reality is though that AT&T is far less of a public-facing company with a much more locked-in customer base. It's very easy to switch away from a company like GoDaddy and they know it.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by unreal37 » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:23 PM UTC

Vivtek wrote: post #136

Natsu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a hand in this Google had? They have a relationship with GoDaddy and I think they were unhappy about this too.

I think it may have been StackOverflow that made them take notice.

Wikipedia also said they would move registrars. That must have had an even greater impact.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by api » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:23 PM UTC

Too little, too late. Fuck them.

Of course, I would have said that before they stopped supporting SOPA. They've always been a sleazy spammy company whose advertising is full of blatant sexism. We should not have been surprise by their support of SOPA. Sleaze will do as sleaze does.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by fletchowns » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:23 PM UTC

balloot wrote: post #140

Too late. Their petulant and dickish responses from the last few days show their true feelings on the issue.

Exactly, I'll still be transferring my 21 domains out of GoDaddy before the new year.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by fsniper » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:26 PM UTC

guga31bb wrote: post #67

noduerme wrote: post #52

Hah. I just reloaded HN and clicked the comments here -- I've had a few drinks -- I thought this was the same article along the lines of "Go Daddy Supports SOPA", until I read through the responses. This just shows what a couple thousand mobilized, highly motivated geeks can do in six hours. HN is solely responsible for this. Imagine if the top-ten stories for the day on this board were about the conditions at Apple'…

> Imagine if the top-ten stories for the day on this board were about the conditions at Apple's factories in China. I don't think it would have the same effect. Go Daddy is immensely reliant on the decisions of a handful of tech-savvy people. It's easy to move a domain, which hurts their bottom line. (for example, there was an effort made by some redditors to try to convince Wikipedia to move away from Go Daddy) If e…

even than it would not matter. Apple could move every manufacturing operation to another bad but better than china condition countries overnight. And we would pay half more for the same equipment..

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by atarian » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:30 PM UTC

I've been reading over GoDaddy's blog posting from yesterday, and I just can't dismiss the feeling that GoDaddy's position as one of the largest domain registrars has given them a different view of American businesses facing difficulty with these so-called "foreign-based websites."

The blog posting emphasizes several times the importance and need to protect American businesses, which to me seems patriotic and sympathetic to promoting a good intention. I'm sure they didn't realize they would be "villanized" as a result of their actions.

Disclaimer: I don't support SOPA.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by dreww » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:30 PM UTC

slig wrote: post #57

spooneybarger wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they can just continue to lend their name to shooting elephants and misogynist ads. I seriously doubt this is going to have much of an impact on them. So this one particular instance came back to bite them, good to know for them that pissing off techies is bad for business but animal rights people, devout christians and women ( all of whom have complained about various other parts of their business in the past )…

While I agree that their ads sucks, I don't think they're misogynist. Like every ad, they're targeted to a specific audience.

yes, they're targeted to an audience. an audience who responds to sexually objectified images of women. also known as misogynists. hello?

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by Natsu » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:35 PM UTC

Vivtek wrote: post #136

Natsu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a hand in this Google had? They have a relationship with GoDaddy and I think they were unhappy about this too.

I think it may have been StackOverflow that made them take notice.

I'm sure it was some combination of everyone working together and the bad PR, but Google uses them as the default registrat for Google Apps domains.

Threatening to change that arrangement would have a continuing impact on their revenue, rather than being just a one-time outrage. That gives Google more leverage than the other sites, which is why I wonder how that played out.

But make no mistake: I'm very glad to see all the websites out there banding together to fight this. Reddit, Wikipedia and even Cheezburger created enough bad PR that they couldn't ignore this and we have to give them credit for that.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by masmullin » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:42 PM UTC

xiaomai wrote: post #128

masmullin wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they actually say that in Tennessee?

Texas?

I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, but I am not 100% on that, hence the question.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Post by dclowd9901 » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 8:43 PM UTC

markbao wrote: post #75

dclowd9901 wrote: post #34

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Businesses run the government. Money controls business. This happened to be one of those issues where it was very easy to clearly show the company that their particular actions would not be tolerated. Not only that, but the difficulty of moving your support away from them was tremendously easy as well. Because of limitations, not all industries enjoy this sort of free market-esque lateral movement. Comm companies, fo…

Huh, you're absolutely right. So people were able to make GoDaddy change their mind by impacting their bottom line. Instead of going through businesses to try to tell the government what the citizens think, and besides writing or calling politicians, what can we do?

I think the mature thing to do, as cynical as this might sound, is to realize that the government is obscenely out of touch with its constituency, and stop going to them for help. Instead, influence the influencers.

At the end of the day, all companies have is customers. If the customers stop utilizing their services, the companies are forced to stop pushing their anti-consumer agendas into legislation. Part of this is utilizing the Internet, as it now is, to circumvent the old ways of doing things.

Essentially, while it is free, startups should be focusing on helping consumers circumvent traditional industries.

We all hate banks as they are. Let's reinvent them.

We all hate telecoms. Let's try to create startups that can compete with them.

We all hate loan institutions. Let's disrupt the loan structure, allow people to privately invest in one another on a micro scale. Hell, it's already being done for 3rd world nations.

We have a real opportunity to change things and make them better. Get out from under the institutionalized world we grew up in. Why not?