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Even if it is the same why should it be allowed? We want better answers not same shit or something even marginally worse
I'm asking what makes it worse.
You asked "Is ChatGPT much worse?"
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#122Just finished Neil Stephenson's Anethem. In it (I'm paraphrasing here) the open internet is destroyed by media companies who flood the internet with "good garbage", that is stuff that is _almost_ correct. It forced people to pay for curated accurate content (that is, pay the same people who generated the good garbage in the first place).
I think much of the social corrosiveness of the web and news media as it stands is due to the adoption of advertising as the primary means of funding content creation, the resulting expectation that most content should be free, and the failure to produce effective micropayment systems so that paid content has become synonymous with paywalls (high cost barriers around large bodies of content). I would love to see a wo…
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OpenAI isn't giving out this service from the goodness of their hearts just for the fun of it. I bet they've gotten it to a place where they can feed its output back into itself for self improvement.
I dunno, is that really possible/sustainable? I suppose we add information to the system by poking it with prompts, and to some extent that gets encoded in the outputs. But I feel like if you're feeding it things that don't contain a new, fresh signal, you're ultimately going to fit to noise; the more of it's own input it ingests, the less meaningful the network would be, and presumably the more nonsensical the outpu…
If there's a discriminator in ChatGPT then I guess it would probably know when an input data is AI generated.
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#124They're basically banning it's direct competitor. Makes business sense.
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okay, I did not realise that was GPT until the second last line, GPT seems to have a tendency to "hedge" all it's opinion in a certain way—it very rarely says one thing without adding a "however", "some people" etc.
The problem is, if you prefix the prompt in the right way, it will happily generate you a comment in a completely different style. Like, given this prompt: > Write a Tweet tht answers the question, "how can you tell if a comment was written by ChatGPT and not a human?" The first three replies were: > "If a comment seems overly robotic or generic, it's likely written by ChatGPT rather than a human!" #AI #ChatGPT > If…
One way to tell if a comment was written by ChatGPT is to look for signs of AI-generated text, such as repetitive phrases or unnatural language patterns. Another approach is to ask the commenter directly if they are a human or a machine learning model. Additionally, you can use a tool like GPT-3 to generate a similar comment and compare the two for any potential differences.
- Written by ChatGPT under prompt Write a Hacker News comment that answers the question, "how can you tell if a comment was written by ChatGPT and not a human?"
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#126I tried to create openai account, but seems e-mail is not enough for them and they require also phone number, not sure why, so I gave up, I provide my phone number only where it's essential.
I wish HN would be showing who downvotes the post, I am more and more experiecing brigading even on completely innocent posts like sharing my experience with account registration.
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This is the scary thing about this - I keep asking it questions, and it gives confident, lengthy responses that look perfect. But when you read it thoroughly, you start noticing small but important mistakes that are not obvious at first.
I tried to get it to dig into some ethical questions and it was disturbing to see how cogent the argument was while mostly overlooking the ethical concerns of the question. I know it’s not actually meant to do that in the first place, but it’s quite excellent at it despite that shortcoming. I’m not looking forward to AIs learning to become even more convincing and authoritative.
It's like the ultimate solipsistic debate-club point of view, distilled and targeted in whatever direction you choose.
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#128I think the ban on ChatGPT answers on Stack Overflow is a mistake. Sure, some of the answers might not be correct, but that's true for any tool. And the fact that ChatGPT answers are easy to produce means that more people can contribute, which can only be a good thing for the community. Plus, it's not like the moderators have to accept every answer - they can still weed out the bad ones. Let's not punish everyone bec…
Going to be blunt... I'm kinda sick of this already This pattern... It was cute for like the first couple of times... Clever even... But now the novelty is wearing thin and all I see are the fallacies inherent in trying to put this forward as some sort of argument/comment in favour of a viewpoint... because I'm still giving the commenter the benefit of the doubt and assuming they are trying to make a substantive cont…
At least people are giving a disclaimer. I'm afraid we'll soon waste a lot of time reading ChatGPT generated comments without even realizing it.
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ChatGPT misses the point that it mostly trains and hallucinates on info exclusively produced by humans. When sites like SO, Reddit, HN, Wikipedia begin to be dominated by GPT-3, it is then the humanity commences its ill-advised journey into the Matrix. As long as Chicken tastes good, I guess there will be few complaints (worry about the futility of staunch vegans, though). — Human who watches SciFi movies
It tastes quite like chicken initially, but lacks any sauce, or variability. You soon crave a piece that has some novel texture.
Have you ever tasted a wild chicken?
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From the post: “The volume of these answers (thousands) and the fact that the answers often require a detailed read by someone with at least some subject matter expertise in order to determine that the answer is actually bad has effectively swamped our volunteer-based quality curation infrastructure.”
Christ, I'm asking for more information . As I said, SO has tons of terrible and incorrect answers, so I want to know more about the impact of ChatGPT answers. Information like the rate at which they're correct vs incorrect, the rate at which they are submitted, and how that compares to normal answers.
The way I read it, ChatGPT acts as a force multiplier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_multiplication
Yes, there are terrible and incorrect answers, but adding ChatGPT allows this to happen at a much higher rate than previously. And it allows folks to put together coherent or correct sounding answers without knowing anything about the subject.