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Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by jhoelzel »

notart666 wrote: post #13
jhoelzel wrote: post #6

So err, this whole IT thing has been nice for the last decades. Maybe we have another decade until it can handle its own fingers...

It really can't and it doesn't really work the way you think it does which is ironic that you'd think people on this site would be informed but I guess ycombinator has a financial conflict of interest in doing so. I wouldn't be surprised if they make posts on this topic with a very heavy bias like they do for a lot of their own investments. I remember being shown this software almost a decade ago in dealing with chat…

Thank you for your rant but you are simply wrong. I do have a bachelor in psychology and am coding since 20 years.

This is not a turn based game ran in dos. You value yourself way to highly and maybe its you who should update their knowledge base ;)

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by FerociousTimes »

iamflimflam1 wrote: post #5
t0m44c wrote: post #3

I am pretty sure we will soon see job ads seeking for ChatGPTops engineers. I think I will ask ChatGPT to write job description for such role.

Write a job description for ChatGPT prompt engineer --- The ChatGPT Prompt Engineer will be responsible for designing and implementing effective prompts for the ChatGPT natural language processing system. This will involve working closely with other members of the team to identify areas for improvement and developing creative solutions to enhance the performance of the system. Key responsibilities for the ChatGPT Pro…

> to identify areas for improvement > to enhance the performance of the system.

Isn't this basically the same thing? Isn't it being redundant here?

One of the areas of improvement is likely to be the overall performance of the system.

There's a lot of fluff in its communication style that I can't really overlook, and I know I'm being pedantic here but you can't really go easy on prose quality with a SOTA AI language model.

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by M4v3R »

gsatic wrote: post #33

The only people whose minds this is "blowing" are people who have never had to build or maintain question answering systems. ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. Sure you can use them, and their skills might surprise u every now and then, but that has nothing to do with how much time you are going to waste on the answers they will get wrong.

So you're telling me that it's not mind-blowing, that we basically created artificial intelligence capable of solving general tasks at a level of a 8 year old human being? Because to me that is still pretty mind-blowing. And I'd argue it's probably at a level above that (but not much).

When in your opinion it will finally be mind blowing? When it matches intelligence and skill of a 14 year old? 20 year old? 40?

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by ben_w »

altcognito wrote: post #46
kristiandupont wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost more astonishing to me to see reactions like yours. I showed it to a friend and she too was unimpressed because it gave answers in her field (finance) that were "good, but sortof basic". So we have here a chat bot that pretty much passes for a human and some people react with "meh, it's not a genius". It makes me think of Tim Urbans chart: https://imgs.search.brave.com/YR7qt28AjhAeXSr_qvSmJubqIKJW5S...

Well as someone who kinda bought into the hype that we would have self driving cars 3 years ago, I’d say beware of underestimating the importance of the size of the problem. However, I agree with you in general: there’s a certain amount of surprise in laughing off the creation an AI agent that could pass as a reasonably intelligent person if it just weren’t straight up wrong about random things.

As a reasonably intelligent person who is sometimes straight up wrong about random things, I feel I should get it to help me write a blog post to explain how I feel about it.

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by thomasfl »

ChatGPT will probably save the planet. Within a year I predict large number of individuals will have typed sentences like "how do I get laid" or "how do I become famous" in ChatGPT. Since the advice will tell people how to achieve these goals in an efficient way, people will stop buying a lot of crap like expensive handbags, watches or sportscars. It will be the end of conspicious consumption.

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by jmcgough »

kristiandupont wrote: post #44
codingdave wrote: post #27

I could have said this on any ChatGPT post the last few days, but I'm simply not seeing the accuracy of it in such a way that anything is threatened. ChatGPT is a plausible idiot. It gets just enough right, saying just enough words, to sound plausible and authoritative to anyone who doesn't know the subject matter well. But it also gets enough wrong that you cannot rely on its accuracy, and if it is talking about a s…

It's almost more astonishing to me to see reactions like yours. I showed it to a friend and she too was unimpressed because it gave answers in her field (finance) that were "good, but sortof basic". So we have here a chat bot that pretty much passes for a human and some people react with "meh, it's not a genius". It makes me think of Tim Urbans chart: https://imgs.search.brave.com/YR7qt28AjhAeXSr_qvSmJubqIKJW5S...

I think knowing how to ask the right questions is important. I've learned that I need to be very specific or I can get pretty general answers. And you can also ask clarifying questions afterwards, or ask for a greater level of detail.

I spent most of the day playing with it and saw it do some really bonkers things. I asked it to create a language similar to pig latin but with some other letter rearrangement strategy, and it gave me "frontback" language, where the first and last letters are swapped.

I also spent time investing medical case studies for it to diagnose, and it did pretty well - I was impressed when it identified ciguatera, but it couldn't differentiate between several possible shellfish toxins. Not going to take doctors' jobs (yet!)

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by Jensson »

ben_w wrote: post #64
altcognito wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well as someone who kinda bought into the hype that we would have self driving cars 3 years ago, I’d say beware of underestimating the importance of the size of the problem. However, I agree with you in general: there’s a certain amount of surprise in laughing off the creation an AI agent that could pass as a reasonably intelligent person if it just weren’t straight up wrong about random things.

As a reasonably intelligent person who is sometimes straight up wrong about random things, I feel I should get it to help me write a blog post to explain how I feel about it.

ChatGPT is wrong about basically everything though as long as you give it the right prompts. It has all the right answers but also all the wrong answers, that makes it much dumber than you who is reliably correct about some things at least.

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by nnoitra »

urthor wrote: post #24
lmarcos wrote: post #16

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The point is not what we (techies) think about the usefulness of ChatGPT. The point is that managers will definitely think ChatGPT is worth doing... Just like they think Jira/Scrum/Agile/etc. is worth our time. I definitely see management paying for ChatGPT.

It's also not about how good ChatGPT is now. How good will ChatGPT be in 5 years? It's scary to imagine.

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Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by ben_w »

FiberBundle wrote: post #59
ben_w wrote: post #31

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It’s also impossible to imagine correctly. Back in 2009, I was completely convinced that we’d be able to go into a car dealership and buy a brand new vehicle which had no steering wheel because the self-driving AI was just that good, within 10 years. Seemed reasonable at the time on the basis of the DARPA Grand Challenge results, but even 13 years later, it didn’t happen.

I think this is the crucial point, just as in all AI applications the way it deals with corner cases will decide its impact on the job market. And corner cases are usually where AI has consistently been performing badly. Just as a reminder, after we had spectacular results on ImageNet, highly respected AI researchers were predicting the end of the radiologist occupation. Turns out that even when some state-of-the-art…

Mm. Perhaps I should use it to help me write more and better automated tests…

Re: Using ChatGPT as a Co-Founder

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Post by chrisbaker98 »

gsatic wrote: post #33

The only people whose minds this is "blowing" are people who have never had to build or maintain question answering systems. ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around. Sure you can use them, and their skills might surprise u every now and then, but that has nothing to do with how much time you are going to waste on the answers they will get wrong.

> ChatGPT is like having a bunch of 8 year olds who know how to use Google hanging around.

It astonishes me that people can dismiss ChatGPT like this. By your own account, there now exists an AI that can convincingly imitate a literate, technically fluent human child. That's an incredible advance that's far beyond anything that existed even a couple of years ago. How is it not amazing?

I get the sense that if some of the commenters here had been around to witness the Wright Brothers' first flight they'd have been like "meh, that's not impressive, the only people whose mind it will blow are people who've never been in a hot air balloon."

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