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Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by jtreminio » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 3:55 PM UTC

Legion wrote: post #48

That's nice. But I prefer my registrar have freedom and anti-censorship be a core everyday value, like NearlyFreeSpeech, rather than something to embrace as a marketing opportunity. Maybe that's unfair to Namecheap, but at any rate, all these issues with GoDaddy that people seem to suddenly care about just now are the reasons I have given NFS all my domain registration business for years now. Just being anti-SOPA isn…

I like NFS, but apparently they have some caveats, such as you cannot set up a domain to use its' own nameservers (buy foo.com, setup nameservers as ns1.foo.com ns2.foo.com with dedicated IPs) without them charging you $50 (?) /hour in tech support... PER nameserver.

Sorry NFS, I'm moving away.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by zdgman » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:00 PM UTC

Just moved my two domains over to Namecheap from Godaddy. I then went and purchase a third domain directly from Namecheap that I want to use for a side project. Not a crazy amount of money by any means but ever little bit counts.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by cluboholic » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:02 PM UTC

seldo wrote: post #35

Totally independently of their SOPA stance, I would recommend Namecheap over GoDaddy. I've been using Namecheap for years; they are reliable and have a sane (if not terribly pretty) user interface.

have 30+ domains on namecheap for years now. very satisfied. never had a problem.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by throwaway88 » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:39 PM UTC

Natsu wrote: post #30

cheald wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this context, I mean IP to encompass non-tangible goods like software and music, as well as things like brands (half of SOPA is levied at people who produce counterfeits of popular brand items). Is there a better term I should use?

RMS, among others, objects to the very term because it encompasses so many different things and that leads to ambiguity, preferring instead to refer to rights individually, e.g. trademarks, copyrights, etc. For those who simply want to protest, though, people have been using terms like 'intellectual monopoly' or 'imaginary property' or the like. But that gets you right back to lumping them all together again.

RMS is also batshit crazy.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by arto » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:55 PM UTC

seldo wrote: post #35

Totally independently of their SOPA stance, I would recommend Namecheap over GoDaddy. I've been using Namecheap for years; they are reliable and have a sane (if not terribly pretty) user interface.

Seconded. I've used Namecheap for some 7 years now. Unlike so many of their competitors, they actually care about customer satisfaction.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by Legion » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:18 PM UTC

muyuu wrote: post #50

Legion wrote: post #48

That's nice. But I prefer my registrar have freedom and anti-censorship be a core everyday value, like NearlyFreeSpeech, rather than something to embrace as a marketing opportunity. Maybe that's unfair to Namecheap, but at any rate, all these issues with GoDaddy that people seem to suddenly care about just now are the reasons I have given NFS all my domain registration business for years now. Just being anti-SOPA isn…

Does that mean that you need to raise the issue in your brand name to have freedom and anti-censorship as a core everyday value?

Nope. Talking about it normally, and not just when it's a convenient hot-button issue, would be sufficient.

A history of backing up those words with actions that match would also help.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by Legion » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:21 PM UTC

jtreminio wrote: post #71

Legion wrote: post #48

That's nice. But I prefer my registrar have freedom and anti-censorship be a core everyday value, like NearlyFreeSpeech, rather than something to embrace as a marketing opportunity. Maybe that's unfair to Namecheap, but at any rate, all these issues with GoDaddy that people seem to suddenly care about just now are the reasons I have given NFS all my domain registration business for years now. Just being anti-SOPA isn…

I like NFS, but apparently they have some caveats, such as you cannot set up a domain to use its' own nameservers (buy foo.com, setup nameservers as ns1.foo.com ns2.foo.com with dedicated IPs) without them charging you $50 (?) /hour in tech support... PER nameserver. Sorry NFS, I'm moving away.

I'm sure NFS isn't the only registrar that fits my description. They're just the one I know about.

I would love to hear about others that hold the same standard.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by ohashi » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:27 PM UTC

Legion wrote: post #48

That's nice. But I prefer my registrar have freedom and anti-censorship be a core everyday value, like NearlyFreeSpeech, rather than something to embrace as a marketing opportunity. Maybe that's unfair to Namecheap, but at any rate, all these issues with GoDaddy that people seem to suddenly care about just now are the reasons I have given NFS all my domain registration business for years now. Just being anti-SOPA isn…

Actually, NameCheap has had one of the best records in terms of defending domain registrant rights out of almost any registrar. For example, http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/namecheap-sued-domain...

Good or bad, they aren't giving their customers up until the law orders them to do so. They've never acted as if they were the law as far as I know. So if you want to talk about walking the walk and core values, NameCheap has been doing it as far back I can remember. Their owner owns quiet a few very high profile names and cares very much about the rights of a domain holder.

Disclaimer: I may be biased, I know the owner and think very highly of him.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by sycr » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:41 PM UTC

throwaway88 wrote: post #74

Natsu wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RMS, among others, objects to the very term because it encompasses so many different things and that leads to ambiguity, preferring instead to refer to rights individually, e.g. trademarks, copyrights, etc. For those who simply want to protest, though, people have been using terms like 'intellectual monopoly' or 'imaginary property' or the like. But that gets you right back to lumping them all together again.

RMS is also batshit crazy.

Please do not create throwaway accounts to make one-off, potentially controversial comments. It dilutes the quality of the discussion.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by Rhapso » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:58 PM UTC

akadien wrote: post #60

Rhapso wrote: post #17

maybe I have this wrong, but it sounds like they heard the rabble rousing and made a well timed good marketing move. No surprise. But it does make me sad when a political stance is a marketing move.

Why does it make you sad for a business to react to market conditions and try to garner more customers as well as let existing customers know their stance? That is why they exist. I would be sad if they didn't take a stance and use it to support their business.

I suppose if the order is as such, "we already have this stance, and if we market it now it will benefit us" it would not bug me as much. However if it had this order "If we take this stance and market it, it will benefit us" it implies the stance will last only as long as the marketing and the benefit. I guess at the lowest root, I feel like marketing and politics should never be mixed, that using marketing in politics, and taking advantage of politics in marketing is somehow perhaps irrationally, the cause of a lot of our current cultural and lobbying abuse troubles. However, I am so left wing I fall a bit off the scale and I most definitely do not have the soul of a business man, perhaps I am best dismissed as a crazy person.