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Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by chernevik » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:25 PM UTC

VMG wrote: post #9

What I don't get about it - what does GoDaddy realistically have to gain from supporting SOPA?

One guess: If Congress thinks GoDaddy is the sort of company that will help them manage all this unruly internet stuff, then that's the sort of company Congress wants around.

Congressmen live and die by response to constituent concerns. If the folks get worked up about cyber-bullying or unsafe skateboard videos or kitten porn or whatever depredations those Internet freaks invent next, Congressmen want some avenue to Do Something. GoDaddy may get little from SOPA, but they could get a lot offering to help manage all of this . . .

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by chernevik » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:34 PM UTC

DiabloD3 wrote: post #2

Given the number of Google people who regularly read HN, I suspect this is already in the process of being fixed.

Google must be very, very careful about throwing its weight around. They want to avoid drawing attention to their importance, or suggesting that they'd use it to impose their opinions.

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by thedeuce » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 4:53 PM UTC

not sure the big deal about this, google is a big company, there are bound to be a few thousand douches

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by intenex » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:00 PM UTC

superasn wrote: post #32

Is it just me or has the focus shifting from SOPA to GoDaddy (reddit too has the same trend). I'm as anti-GoDaddy as the next person but let's remember that calling your representative will help the cause more than punishing a domain registrar. Maybe if you run a popular website then informing your site visitors about the evil of the bill (like tumblr) can do much more to help the cause than moving your domain name t…

We shouldn't underestimate the message we're sending by outcasting GD. As we've already seen, other businesses in the domain/hosting world have already taken notice and adopted an anti-SOPA stance. If the backlash against GD is great enough, it's a pretty clear warning to every other company out there - if you support SOPA, be prepared to face the consequences.

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by mahmoudimus » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:06 PM UTC

nknight wrote: post #34

nick007 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seclists.org debacle? Link?

http://seclists.org/nmap-hackers/2007/0 First hit for "seclists godaddy" on Google for me...

Oh my god, reading that made me envision SOPA passing.

Where a company, like MySpace, deems that one page on a large well respected website, like seclists.org, aggravates them -- they can just dns block it and it is no longer accessible.

Holy..

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by billpatrianakos » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:10 PM UTC

sunchild wrote: post #36

billpatrianakos wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fixed? You know, I get the whole backlash against GoDaddy and it's totally justified but these posts that basically demand all businesses switch registrars or imply that any company using GoDaddy as their registrar are somehow sympathetic to them is nuts to me. I know they don't outright say it but that's the subtext I'm getting. I hope everyone boycotts GoDaddy and transfers to another provider but we have to unders…

Google really ought to distance itself from GoDaddy. It reflects poorly on them, and I'm quite sure that Google has enough leverage to do whatever it likes in this case.

Should they really distance themselves? I'm not taking a stance but posing the question. The thing is, sometimes your business partners do something you don't agree with. Google will have to decide whether GoDaddy's support for SOPA is enough to sever a long standing business relationship.

It's easy to say Google should stop doing business with them when we're talking about an issue that rouses such passionate opinions but we have to think about a few things first:

First, who are we to know what's best for Google? If we're so smart why aren't we all running billion dollar companies? Secondly, if companies went about changing their businesses just to suit a noisy minority there'd be problems. As it stands it seems like the people making the biggest deal about this is our small developer community. Granted there are a lot of powerful people on our side but when you take the big picture into account we're just a noisy minority.

So yeah, I would like them to distance themselves from GoDaddy like everyone else but should they? I also don't think leverage has any part in this. Google is already a registrar but there must be some good reason they use those 3rd parties. I don't think people are giving them enough credit here. They're looking at this one small detail of how Google does business and making broad, sweeping judgements.

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by billpatrianakos » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:11 PM UTC

bdg wrote: post #37

SandB0x wrote: post #24

Let's not pollute this place with hashtags.

No kidding. Hash tags need to die, this isn't twitter, and I don't come here for 100-character-long spam bursts of groupthink and newspeak.

When it comes to SOPA there seems to be a ton of groupthink going on. I feel like people are missing a lot of the nuances and oversimplifying every new story that comes out about it.

Edit: Really? Are we just on a downvoting spree today? That button isn't there to silence opinions you don't like and I'm getting really sick of seeing that happen around here. There are trolls and off topic comments that are safe to push down and ignore but there's people who don't have the same thoughts as you which are a different story. This really is becoming a big circle jerk/pat-each-other-on-the-back-for-being-so-smart club.

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by billpatrianakos » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:20 PM UTC

maratd wrote: post #41

_pius wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm as anti-GoDaddy as the next person but let's remember that calling your representative will help the cause more than punishing a domain registrar. Are you sure about that?

Bingo. If you take out GoDaddy and a few others who either are or have potential to donate funds to election campaigns, those representatives will pay attention real quick. Much more effective than sending letters or calling.

There's not enough of us to take out GoDaddy. I really can't be optimistic about this. But in all honesty I get the whole boycott as a way to raise awareness and support that but there seems to be an underlying theme to some people's comments of wanting to put GoDaddy completely out of business. I think that's just immature. GoDaddy may be wrong on this issue but they're free to take whatever stand they want and really they aren't the problem here. The real problem is this legislation. If SOPA passes then we're fucked and we'll look back and realize that focusing so much on GoDaddy didn't really matter. GoDaddy supporting it or not, if this passes its bad either way so let's be aware of this stuff but stop focusing so much on all the minutia

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by billpatrianakos » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:28 PM UTC

JVirissimo wrote: post #29

ctman wrote: post #28

deleted my G+ account. Will not be buying another Android phone.

Really, you're not going to wait a few weeks and see if Google fixes things?

What if they don't "fix" things? Is it then okay to go ahead and boycott Google? I would say no. I would still say even if they did nothing about this that dropping all Google support would still be throwing the baby out with the bath water. I'd honestly be happy if they put out a simple statement explaining why they're going to sever ties or continue doing business with GoDaddy and just honestly explain why. As a business owner I know that you can't really control some of the people you do business with and you really need to pick your battles. Google dropping GoDaddy because they hold an unpopular opinion, however wrong it is, would actually look sort of bad for Google. The guys who are fighting censorship (Google) just severed ties with a business partner because they have a differing opinion actually seems a bit like censorship itself. "If you don't agree with me then I'm going to punish you" is what that sounds like. In any case, its unfortunate that Google ended up doing business with them but Google couldn't possibly know this would happen when they first partnered with them and severing ties now just feels wrong to me.

Re: GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains

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Post by ajross » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:35 PM UTC

SandB0x wrote: post #24

Let's not pollute this place with hashtags.

Yes. Instead, let's make the top comment on the top post on the site a pointless flamewar about a single word in the title instead of the content of the post. Your idea is much better, thank you.