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Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by dzink »

N3cr0ph4g1st wrote: post #5
colesantiago wrote: post #3

StackOverflow and Google are finished. This is expected and it may not look like it now, but banning an advancement in technology (even temporary) is usually the first step to irrelevance of those pushing back. In a few years from now when ChatGPT and perhaps the much awaited GPT-4 are released, get better, (or even an implementation is open sourced) it will further plummet the usage for SO and Google. The genie is o…

Google is most likely already working on its own version. They have the resources and ML chops to probably build one far more powerful. I'd bet they'll stay dominant

Any tool that doesn’t force you to click on many page views to get an answer is bad for Google search. They want you to peruse and click on sites riddled with google ads as many times as possible. These incentives have led to quality of results getting worse over time. The only way Google is launching this type of model would be if they could embed ads in the answers and even potentially bake them in. Which would also make showing as many iterations as possible more lucrative, and thus disincentivize good performance. The problem with Ad platforms is that good user experience is a bug for the business model.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by hgomersall »

ignoramous wrote: post #53
lovecg wrote: post #35

I think the ban on ChatGPT answers on Stack Overflow is a mistake. Sure, some of the answers might not be correct, but that's true for any tool. And the fact that ChatGPT answers are easy to produce means that more people can contribute, which can only be a good thing for the community. Plus, it's not like the moderators have to accept every answer - they can still weed out the bad ones. Let's not punish everyone bec…

ChatGPT misses the point that it mostly trains and hallucinates on info exclusively produced by humans. When sites like SO, Reddit, HN, Wikipedia begin to be dominated by GPT-3, it is then the humanity commences its ill-advised journey into the Matrix. As long as Chicken tastes good, I guess there will be few complaints (worry about the futility of staunch vegans, though). — Human who watches SciFi movies

It tastes quite like chicken initially, but lacks any sauce, or variability. You soon crave a piece that has some novel texture.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by johnchristopher »

And (at the moment) the first answer is a ChatGPT answer.

https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/421832

I guess that cat won't go back in its bottle [0].

[0] Attempt at humor was not AI generated. [1]

[1] And neither is this footnote.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by b800h »

Yet another example of AI driving us back to analogue. There's no obvious way of identifying AI content on StackOverflow, and there's a financial imperative to having a high score on there. So one would expect it to get gamed into oblivion with bots. Once that's happened, there ceases to be any social payoff in posting tech info on the net. And so we end of hoarding knowledge and training people in person.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by joe_the_user »

ignoramous wrote: post #53
lovecg wrote: post #35

I think the ban on ChatGPT answers on Stack Overflow is a mistake. Sure, some of the answers might not be correct, but that's true for any tool. And the fact that ChatGPT answers are easy to produce means that more people can contribute, which can only be a good thing for the community. Plus, it's not like the moderators have to accept every answer - they can still weed out the bad ones. Let's not punish everyone bec…

ChatGPT misses the point that it mostly trains and hallucinates on info exclusively produced by humans. When sites like SO, Reddit, HN, Wikipedia begin to be dominated by GPT-3, it is then the humanity commences its ill-advised journey into the Matrix. As long as Chicken tastes good, I guess there will be few complaints (worry about the futility of staunch vegans, though). — Human who watches SciFi movies

Given the faulty argument of GPT trained on human speech, I assume that GPT trained on GPT will be distinctly incoherent but somehow persuasive. But by that point, the GPT administering the sites won't be troubled by the situation.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by randomsearch »

dzink wrote: post #61
N3cr0ph4g1st wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is most likely already working on its own version. They have the resources and ML chops to probably build one far more powerful. I'd bet they'll stay dominant

Any tool that doesn’t force you to click on many page views to get an answer is bad for Google search. They want you to peruse and click on sites riddled with google ads as many times as possible. These incentives have led to quality of results getting worse over time. The only way Google is launching this type of model would be if they could embed ads in the answers and even potentially bake them in. Which would als…

Maybe, but also think about the prompts. Google might be able to infer far more about your intentions from a fully formed question rather than a search query. Which will allow them to target you more precisely, allow them to sell data to product companies. Prompts are more personal and revealing, even the language you use.

You could also imagine inserting adverts into the generated response.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by insanitybit »

fragmede wrote: post #47
mudrockbestgirl wrote: post #10

Are there some examples of the answers by ChatGPT? I'd really like to look at them.

Here's one: https://stackoverflow.com/a/74675088/19877232

I don't know react. Is this correct? It looks correct. And a good example of how to use ChatGPT - a human asks for the answer and then augments it with their expertise.

Re: Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned

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Post by hooby »

I think it could work - but you'd have to find a way to let ChatGPT exclusively deal with the sort of repeat questions that are rather annoying to human posters - while all the actually interesting, new questions (which are also more likely to cause ChatGPT to create a flawed answer), are reserved for humans.

(Also don't let ChatGPT pose as a human - give it it's own user name and automate it.)

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