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Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by prpatel » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 5:14 AM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #13

I'm not sure that Hollywood is, in fact, dying. The evidence[1][2] suggests that Hollywood has been making more money in the 2000's than ever before. 1. http://the-numbers.com/movies/records/ 2. http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/2010-box-office-more-r... They are having record breaking revenue years in 2009 and 2010. It's not like they are suffering the downtown that the newspaper industry has and they don't have…

Thanks for digging up that info. Was just about to reach for my favourite search engine to find evidence that Hollywood, in fact, is not dying. Regardless of the sensationalist title of the article, I agree with it's point of view.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by pstuart » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 6:55 AM UTC

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

Hollywood said the VCR would kill them. Then they said the DVD would kill them. They don't have the best track record in this regard...

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by m_eiman » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 7:45 AM UTC

v21 wrote: post #10

torontos wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

looks fine on ios safari to me

Yeah, just shows me a full page ad for the iPad app, and tells me their content is now exclusive to their app. Would be interested to know what causes it to vary... But yes, a touch of irony there.

Disable Javascript while loading the page and the iPad check wont run. You'd think they'd do the check server-side, but apparently not.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by ra » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 10:42 AM UTC

pstuart wrote: post #22

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

Hollywood said the VCR would kill them. Then they said the DVD would kill them. They don't have the best track record in this regard...

Just like home taping killed music

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by bad_user » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 12:13 PM UTC

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

Their arguments are also pretty inconsistent. They complain about piracy, yet Avatar, a movie released in the age of piracy, is the highest-grossing movie of all time.

They aren't afraid of loses from piracy, instead they are afraid that they'll have to start producing quality content instead of dumb movies like Jeniffer's Body, Jack and Jill, Season of the Witch, Red Riding Hood and Shark Night.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by imgabe » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 12:23 PM UTC

I wish journalists would stop referring to SOPA as the "bill to stop piracy" or the "bill to save Hollywood". Even this article admits that SOPA is not going to do a thing to stop piracy. It's easily circumvented. The only thing it's going to accomplish is killing the Internet. There's no upside to it.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by Tripatimishra » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 2:06 PM UTC

Actually everywhere in the world the big problem is the law makers of every country does not fully understand what law they are going to make. They just follow their party stand to save their political position.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 2:11 PM UTC

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

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Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by yeswecan » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 2:12 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #25

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

Their arguments are also pretty inconsistent. They complain about piracy, yet Avatar, a movie released in the age of piracy, is the highest-grossing movie of all time. They aren't afraid of loses from piracy, instead they are afraid that they'll have to start producing quality content instead of dumb movies like Jeniffer's Body, Jack and Jill, Season of the Witch, Red Riding Hood and Shark Night.

I would hardly call Jennifer's Body a dumb movie.

Re: Killing the Internet to save Hollywood

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Post by rmc » Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 2:44 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #25

jjcm wrote: post #8

A better title might be, "Killing the internet to preserve the old methods of distribution so segments of the movie industry dont have to adapt." Hollywood is trying to fight against an enemy that they don't understand. They think censoring piracy will stop it, when it's obvious that it wont. Gabe Newell said it best - “In general, we think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a…

Their arguments are also pretty inconsistent. They complain about piracy, yet Avatar, a movie released in the age of piracy, is the highest-grossing movie of all time. They aren't afraid of loses from piracy, instead they are afraid that they'll have to start producing quality content instead of dumb movies like Jeniffer's Body, Jack and Jill, Season of the Witch, Red Riding Hood and Shark Night.

They aren't afraid of loses from piracy

I wonder if they have drank their own Kool-Aid. Maybe they actually believe they could double their revenue if it wasn't for the pirates. Do they actually believe that every pirated film is a lost sale?

If this is how they think, then their behaviour w.r.t. SOPA et al. makes sense. They could double their profits!