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What I am even more puzzled by is the concentration of manufacturing of CPUs in Taiwan, which beyond the chinese threat, is also an active seismic zone.
TSMC are the only peolle that can do 4nm at scale, and they only do it in Taiwan at present. It's not like Intel wasn't trying.
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Wrong. The protest is about compensation, the workers were promised to have 10k once they get pass the probation period, 3 months. They were let go before the 3 month probation finished, and they demand the payment. You don't just go around developing world and criticize people not eating organic food or anything. It is not right. I wish Chinese workers get paid the same amount as their western counterparts, the fact…
Wait, are you saying because China isn't rich, workers shouldn't have rights? I'm legitimately asking, because when you boil down your argument, that's what it sounds like.
Flying geese will always abuse their workers, that's what Apple is. Same with let's say Foxconn
People love to give Jony Ive and Steve Jobs credit for the iPhone but no one gives Tim Cook credit for keep making the iPhone the most desirable product in the world in 2022.
iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…
iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…
Wonderful news indeed, but it’s not out of any ethical concerns, but because XI Jinping’s draconian zero-Covid policy and incessant lockdowns have made the Chinese supply-chain unreliable, something Apple like all businesses hate (remember, Tim Cook became head of Apple because of his supply-chain management chops). Still, good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in t…
This affects real people who just found themselves on this situation and have no power to change it. Gleefully calling the situation “good” is callous and insensitive.
iPhone made in China is no better than the cotton from Xinjiang. Earlier the reports are workers in the China iPhone factory had a protest and brutal conflict with the local police. Reasons varied from unbearable working condition, the zero-covid policy, and being deceived about the compensation. After the local police oppressed the campaign, the government assigned headcounts to local villages, demanding them to fil…
I don't know where people get the idea people are semi-enslaved in factories.. Having lived in China, in my second hand experience Chinese worker protection laws are quite strict. Somewhere between US and Europe. It's not really easy to fire people and people regularly sue their employers and win. The legal system is generally very heavily biased towards the little guy I just feel really bad for these people. They pr…
Except Chinese factories are huge and aplenty, so they would "win" by numbers.
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They were understood just as well 50 years ago, the problem is, all these disadvantages are long term. Short term profits always win
I disagree, for long term sourcing. It takes awhile to get relationships, supply chain, etc. established.
When you do a cost to benefit analysis on china it always sounds great.
Yeah, you have to deal with a couple minor PR blunders since you are hiring slave labor, 2-3 weeks ARO boat time kinda sucks but they are fair trade offs for World class manufacturing for half the cost, and obscene payment terms since the CCP is involved in the deal making (120 days Payment terms on each milestone for CapEx is normal in china).
Only do you realise that you are manufacturing in a entirely foreign regime and that regime can do whatever it wants do you realise it's a problem. You are at their whim from a import/ export tax, wars (trade, economic and real), etc.
But all the benefits are real and easy to quanitify. The negatives are ethical and imagined until they are not.
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Plenty of people live on farms and grow animals, kill them and then eat them. I haven't killed one myself, but I have been at pig butchering "parties" at my grandparents or uncles and saw how the sausage is made. Still tastes yummy.
I bet if you ask city people to either kill an animal or grab a shrink-wrapped package containing a vegetarian meat substitute, by far the majority would choose the latter.
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Wonderful news indeed, but it’s not out of any ethical concerns, but because XI Jinping’s draconian zero-Covid policy and incessant lockdowns have made the Chinese supply-chain unreliable, something Apple like all businesses hate (remember, Tim Cook became head of Apple because of his supply-chain management chops). Still, good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in t…
> good to see the totalitarian tyrant Xi wrecking China just as his inspiration Mao did back in the day This affects real people who just found themselves on this situation and have no power to change it. Gleefully calling the situation “good” is callous and insensitive.
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What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? I literally cannot think of a single thing. That doesn't mean China has no positive aspects. The West is also not monolithic.
> What aspect of China makes the West look like a 'backwater'? Compare China homicide rates to USA. Or China incarceration rate to USA incarceration rate.