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Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#31
post #10

Wow... SO is still with GoDaddy? GoDaddy's position on SOPA has been clear since October; what took them so long?

Where has this been made clear? They may have written their statements in October, but waited till today to publish it:

http://support.godaddy.com/godaddy/go-daddys-position-on-sop...

It's another sleazy move by GoDaddy (that wreaks of corruption) to wait till nearly the eve of the SOPA vote before making their stance and rationale public.

Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#32
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only time American Express has called me has been twice on my Gandi payment. Makes you wonder about their fraud algorithms. Surely Amex can see I make the same payment every year, or maybe that is the mark of a patient and not greedy fraud. FWIW I haven't had any troubles in the last few years.

The one time I had a credit card number stolen, Wells Fargo noticed the problem before I did. When I asked their fraud guy what the charges were that I didn't make he said they were a couple of domain name registrations. Presumably attempting to register domains is something card thieves do to verify a stolen number actually works before they resell it or use it for "real" purchases... but why they use domain fees fo…

They're buying a domain with free or cheap hosting to set up a phishing site to get more stolen cards or bank logins. By the time you notice and charge back the payment, they've already had time to spam that URL to a hundred thousand e-mails.

Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#33

Why did anyone ever use GoDaddy in the first place? There are much better options out there. Dynadot, Moniker, Gandi, ... the list is endless.

> Why did anyone ever use GoDaddy in the first place? Price ($1.xx .coms occasionally) pulls you in, inertia keeps you there. If all you do is use them as a registrar, you'll probably never have a problem, so no reason to reconsider. Plus, it's the biggest registrar, trust in numbers.

> probably never have a problem

https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=godaddy...

http://css-tricks.com/15377-this-sites-domain-is-stolen/

etc.

Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#34
post #21

Perhaps off-topic, but after reading GoDaddy's letter, I am surprised that our discussions against SOPA don't focus on the root -- the fact that the legislation is presented in an incredibly misleading and vague manner. At face value, its purpose is to stop the foreign counterfeit drug/goods sellers -- you know, the same guys who spam us with "enlarge your..." and such offers. The same guys who pollute Google search…

> Now suppose someone had asked you: "do you want legislation against these foreign illegal drug sellers?" Surely you'd say yes. Heck, I'd say yes.

Let me stop you there. I'd say no, because I feel that in many matters, especially those concerning the Internet, legislation is about as effective as politely asking the rain not to drip through your leaky roof.

Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why did anyone ever use GoDaddy in the first place? Price ($1.xx .coms occasionally) pulls you in, inertia keeps you there. If all you do is use them as a registrar, you'll probably never have a problem, so no reason to reconsider. Plus, it's the biggest registrar, trust in numbers.

> probably never have a problem https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=godaddy... http://css-tricks.com/15377-this-sites-domain-is-stolen/ etc.

That had nothing to do with GoDaddy. GoDaddy was not the original registrar of all the domains that were stolen, and the thefts were possible due to a Gmail issue, not anything GoDaddy did.

Re: StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.

#37
post #21

Perhaps off-topic, but after reading GoDaddy's letter, I am surprised that our discussions against SOPA don't focus on the root -- the fact that the legislation is presented in an incredibly misleading and vague manner. At face value, its purpose is to stop the foreign counterfeit drug/goods sellers -- you know, the same guys who spam us with "enlarge your..." and such offers. The same guys who pollute Google search…

> Now suppose someone had asked you: "do you want legislation against these foreign illegal drug sellers?" Surely you'd say yes. Heck, I'd say yes. What reasonable person would oppose this?

I would. Not every nuisance should be outlawed, most nuisances probably shouldn't. Legislation always bears a cost, and, for instance, in this case the cost outweighs the benefits by a wide margin. As is often the case.

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