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Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#31
How is "institutiion" or "company" defined? I couldn't find any international news providers for example, Newscorp, BBC, Daily Mail

Probably not a major issue though. As companies move more to remote and/or cloud based access from service providers - zscaler etc - that IP data is lost (or rather hidden by the provider), it certainly becomes easier to be anonymous to sites like wikipedia.

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely lost trust in Wikipedia once I realized recent history is literally being rewritten by biased editors. For one, check the edit history of anything Russia/Ukraine war related, it's a complete shitshow.

History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now.

> History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now.

A modern spin on this: history is no longer written by the victors, but by people with literally no life outside of writing crap on the internet

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

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One of the Navy Network Information Center (NNIC)'s top edits is the Subic rape case.[0] Predictably and, unfortunately, it's essentially all edits trying to play down the case or cast doubt I've been a Wikipedia editor for a few years now (mostly botany-related pages) and I've been quite the pessimist about the platform for almost as long. But browsing this website has gotten me really demoralized to be honest. Many…

> One of the Navy Network Information Center (NNIC)'s top edits is the Subic rape case.

What's the tl;dr of what happened here? It looks to me like someone in the US military raped a Filipino girl, and then either blackmailed her family or did something shady in order to get her to recant. Meanwhile there were edits on the page to disregard her initial allegations[0]

[0] http://wikiwho.ailef.tech/diffs/c5885fe11dbfd31923f7554cf41c...

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

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One amusing edit: http://wikiwho.ailef.tech/diff/7d674d710c8d1328f0f74f6b351ff... IPs from the European Parliament editing out connections to Cambridge Analytica from Alex Phillips' (member of the European Parliament) page: http://wikiwho.ailef.tech/diff/584f4588ec12334300a448f39ae4c...

Good to see that the latter was reverted within 5 minutes, and the removed content remains there to this day.

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#36
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now.

> History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now. A modern spin on this: history is no longer written by the victors, but by people with literally no life outside of writing crap on the internet

Not sure how that links to the article considering that these IP ranges are linked to professional institutions.

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#37
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now.

> History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now. A modern spin on this: history is no longer written by the victors, but by people with literally no life outside of writing crap on the internet

This was true of medieval clerics and Enlightenment historians as well. It's almost always the idle writing history because everyone else is too busy working or living their own lives. The exception to this rule is patronage history (e.g. paying others to write flattering histories) but that's exactly what this kind of astroturfing on Wikipedia is.

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#38
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

History was always written by the victors, we only see it happen in real time now.

...and to a much greater degree then people realize, really. As a simple example, WW2. There where several polls over the decades in Germany which country contributed the most to the fall of Nazi Germany. In the beginning, it was mostly attributed to Russia (something like 80%) with the USA mostly protecting Europe from getting integrated into Russia after the fall. But over time this opinion has been overturned to b…

>> And the fact that Russia could've likely just taken over Europe completely has been forgotten entirely.

Well, seeing how Russia can't even take over Russia today, people have doubts! That's a joke, don't get all serious ;-)

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#39

I'm not sure why people are so downhearted by this kind of thing. It's well known that anything controversial on Wikipedia is going to have a lot of edit warring and people trying to control a narrative. What Wikipedia is best at is non-controversial topics. And that has always been the case. Even for controversial topics it's honestly surprising how more or less correct the articles tend to be. Wikipedia is not wher…

When it comes to current events, I think the advantage that Wikipedia has over traditional encyclopedias is not authoritative but rather referential. With most articles (such as historical events or scientific breakthroughs), Wikipedia converges to a pretty authoritative treatment of the subject and can be more accurate than a singe-source encyclopedia. With current events articles, Wikipedia provides a starting point for further reading (including via the citation pointers) whereas a single-source encyclopedia may be out of date and completely devoid of content on the subject.

Re: Show HN: Explore Wikipedia edits made by institutions, companies and governments

#40
post #18

Hugged to death?

Yes, indeed. It should be working fine now, though.

You might want to consider using a CDN like CloudFlare. The information on your site looks very cacheable.

That would reduce load because requests for the same content would get served by them rather than hitting your server directly.

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