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South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by bigcat12345678 »

hammock wrote: post #5

The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

> might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China.

The China distortion field

Anything normally would be laughed at would be considered dead true when comes to China...

Use your f*king mind...

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by chrischen »

philliphaydon wrote: post #240
chrischen wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trying to single out the government from the people is a convenient way to justify an anti-China stance. Have you even considered the fact that even if the majority of Chinese may not like their own government, that doesn't mean they support yours?

At the end of the day calling everything anti China and racist is just a way of deflecting and trying to justify what the government is doing. No one is here defending their own government. Most people in most countries will freely admit when their governments do stuff that’s wrong. But only CCP shills are here defending the CCP and trying to justify genocide, cross border arrests, mass censorship, etc etc. For the r…

Yes so you don’t fully support the NZ government, but you are still a subject of and supporter of (through taxes or even maybe just plain apathy even) of the New Zealand government. And so in this way you can’t say the Chinese people are completely separate from their government, because at the end of the day they are paying taxes and letting their government do these things you object to.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by croes »

causi wrote: post #239
croes wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think every red is in team red and everything red does is part of playing a against team blue then you are red-team-phobic. Try replacing red with black or jewish and look how it sounds.

The CCP is not a race. Working against companies under the control or influence of the CCP is no more "Sinophobic" than working against companies under the control or influence of the Nazi government was "Germanophobic".

To think everything a company does is from CCP just because there are ties to the CCP is sinophobic.

That chinese users get STEM content is because of the enforcement by the CCP, that US users get stupid content is because of their freedom of choice. People loved stupid stuff on FB and YT way before TikTok.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

onetimeusename wrote: post #191
DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #177

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Top graduate programs in STEM fields recruit internationally, because they're looking for the absolute best students, and Americans are only a small percentage of the world population. The US is extremely lucky to have a large percentage of the top research universities in the world, so every year, it Hoovers a fairly large fraction of the best students worldwide, who naturally want to go to the best programs and wor…

Yes, I am glad you brought this up. I think there are trade offs. There is a benefit to Americans that they accept the best globally. On the other hand, professors and elite STEM grads do form a high status caste who occupy the most powerful government and corporate positions and professorships that make decisions that affect Americans. Some of my favorite people I know are foreign stem grads. But I have also met som…

> Professors with dual citizenship can leave at any moment and during a war that could devastate us.

Look at the list of people who developed the atom and hydrogen bombs for the United States. They were overwhelmingly foreign-born.

Imagine you moved to another country at age 22, studied there, got married there, raised kids there, and built your career there over the course of 20-30 years. You would not simply "leave at any moment."

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by croes »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #79
blopker wrote: post #76

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I'm not sure if this claim is true or not, but the person in your first reference is Andrew Schulz. He's a comedian who has already come out to say that he made all that up, and the media just ran with it [0]. [0]: https://youtube.com/shorts/tAV3QkzHC5E

So he made it up thinking it was fake - but now it has been independently shown to be likely true. In which case he made up a conspiracy theory then demonstrated to be accurate when he thought it was a joke. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re... https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/24/23467181/difference-betwe... CBS 60 Minutes Interview with an IT expert just 3 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com…

Sounds more like the west gets the standard social media version. Just like YouTube and FB algorithms do serve you more of the same no matter how stupid it is.

The Chinese get the version with government enforcement of science and patriotism.

Freedom vs. Dictatorship.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

ketzo wrote: post #30
technion wrote: post #16

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My wife worked for the government. When they deployed wfh, they used mfa. They banned Google authenticator out of the view Google can't be trusted. But told people to search the app store for any other mfa app. They one my wife found makes you wait for an ad run before it displays the code. It sometimes crashes and is generally terrible. The point being banning certain apps seems far more political than well thought…

Sorry, their official MFA policy was "just go find a random one"? How would that even work? Do they have a contract with every MFA service?

> Sorry, their official MFA policy was "just go find a random one"? How would that even work? Do they have a contract with every MFA service?

TOTP is a standard, so anyone can implement it.

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6238

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by kortilla »

chrischen wrote: post #242
philliphaydon wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day calling everything anti China and racist is just a way of deflecting and trying to justify what the government is doing. No one is here defending their own government. Most people in most countries will freely admit when their governments do stuff that’s wrong. But only CCP shills are here defending the CCP and trying to justify genocide, cross border arrests, mass censorship, etc etc. For the r…

Yes so you don’t fully support the NZ government, but you are still a subject of and supporter of (through taxes or even maybe just plain apathy even) of the New Zealand government. And so in this way you can’t say the Chinese people are completely separate from their government, because at the end of the day they are paying taxes and letting their government do these things you object to.

So what? He doesn’t call everyone racist who criticizes the actions of the NZ government. It seems to only be CCP shills that struggle with this concept.

Nobody in the US gets confused when someone from Europe complains about US government military actions and calls them racist. Perhaps you too can learn that criticisms of the CCP have nothing to do with the Chinese citizens?

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by [deleted] »

nano9 wrote: post #181
vlunkr wrote: post #58

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Authy is good, or freeotp if you want to go full FOSS.

Duo Mobile on iOS lets you save and restore your TOTP tokens across iPhone backups with a symmetric passphrase. It provides some peace of mind in the event you would lose your phone.

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Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by philliphaydon »

chrischen wrote: post #242
philliphaydon wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day calling everything anti China and racist is just a way of deflecting and trying to justify what the government is doing. No one is here defending their own government. Most people in most countries will freely admit when their governments do stuff that’s wrong. But only CCP shills are here defending the CCP and trying to justify genocide, cross border arrests, mass censorship, etc etc. For the r…

Yes so you don’t fully support the NZ government, but you are still a subject of and supporter of (through taxes or even maybe just plain apathy even) of the New Zealand government. And so in this way you can’t say the Chinese people are completely separate from their government, because at the end of the day they are paying taxes and letting their government do these things you object to.

It’s not even compatible. I can criticise my government safely. You cannot say anything negative about the CCP without repercussions.

So it’s probably better you stop trying to defend and justify the CCP. It just makes you look like a supporter of an authoritarian regime that commits genocide to its own people.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by tauwauwau »

hammock wrote: post #5

The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

You're criticizing dumb content then show a 1 minute video as explainer, please don't take this the wrong way, but there are very few 1 minute videos that are not dumb.
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