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South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #49
pasquinelli wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sounds like china has the right idea. it takes me (in america) constantly weeding the garden of my youtube (also american) to minimize the dumb shit it shows me. so does america want stupid americans? is that not the biggest deal?

What are you proposing exactly? That the US government moderate YouTube content?

The FCC has the authority to ban swearing and nudity on public television. States can ban nudity, profanity, and (in my state) adult video-store ads from highway signage. States can control what teachers instruct students with (who wants a flat-earth teacher?) I don't see why a law, which generically states that recommendation algorithms operated by a publicly-owned company must bias towards intellectually stimulating content, would necessarily be a violation of the First Amendment without undermining earlier accepted laws.

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Post by cesarb »

ketzo wrote: post #30
technion wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife worked for the government. When they deployed wfh, they used mfa. They banned Google authenticator out of the view Google can't be trusted. But told people to search the app store for any other mfa app. They one my wife found makes you wait for an ad run before it displays the code. It sometimes crashes and is generally terrible. The point being banning certain apps seems far more political than well thought…

Sorry, their official MFA policy was "just go find a random one"? How would that even work? Do they have a contract with every MFA service?

> How would that even work?

TOTP is a standard (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6238), so I don't see how that wouldn't work.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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leereeves wrote: post #26
LAC-Tech wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As opposed to what other part of the world? Interest in drier, more educational content is less for every human society I know of.

I found that European TV is a lot drier and more educational than US TV, but I don't know if that's because of interest, regulation, a smaller market (in each language), or ?

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Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by lzooz »

leereeves wrote: post #26
LAC-Tech wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As opposed to what other part of the world? Interest in drier, more educational content is less for every human society I know of.

I found that European TV is a lot drier and more educational than US TV, but I don't know if that's because of interest, regulation, a smaller market (in each language), or ?

I've only watched European TV but if you say US TV is even worse... it must be like in that movie Idiocracy

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by cauthon »

hammock wrote: post #5

The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

The primary source of your "further reading" article is Tucker Carlson. Not saying the claim is incorrect, but are there any trustworthy sources supporting it?

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by vlunkr »

technion wrote: post #16
elmerfud wrote: post #2

I would think they would ban lots of apps on state owned devices. There's a lot of trash apps out there that are nothing but spyware.

My wife worked for the government. When they deployed wfh, they used mfa. They banned Google authenticator out of the view Google can't be trusted. But told people to search the app store for any other mfa app. They one my wife found makes you wait for an ad run before it displays the code. It sometimes crashes and is generally terrible. The point being banning certain apps seems far more political than well thought…

Authy is good, or freeotp if you want to go full FOSS.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by htag »

onetimeusename wrote: post #45
hammock wrote: post #5

The bigger deal (bigger than the tracking that people usually focus on) might be how the algorithm is specifically tuned to reward dumb content in the US, compared to rewarding STEM and other educational content in China. One minute video that explains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hus9fWz0RRk Further reading: https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...

I think this is a serious issue but underestimated. People in the US believe that the top science and engineering roles should be filled by immigrants which I don't think is sustainable or even a healthy view of education. I am basing this on the huge foreign population of our top schools and the push for H1-B visas. It can be a self fulfilling prophecy if people remove themselves from the running for STEM in earlier…

The linked study is for children aged 8-12. How does a 12 year old "remove themselves from the running for STEM"? A six grader taking average math/science classes and getting average grades is on track for qualifying for a science/engineering/math undergraduate program. There's even opportunities later in life for those struggling in school to join STEM.

When I was 12 all my friends wanted to be rock stars or professional skateboarders. I seriously doubt the causation between what children want to be in the age group of 8-12 and what they grow up to become.

Re: South Dakota first to ban TikTok on state-owned devices

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

andrewstuart wrote: post #13

It matters which country controls the platform. The recent protests in China have been suppressed by the CCP. No doubt there are close to zero protest videos on TikTok. There are protest videos on YouTube - though anecdotally YouTube management is attempting to suppress them because Google is tightly bound to China. The question is, does it matter if protest videos are shown or hidden on social media? Can the videos…

Anecdata: I have seen what appears to be a couple on my Tiktok, but not a large number. Edit: Seems searching "China lockdown 2022" brings some up I think.
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