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Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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> Based on the fact that they've gone through several waves of layoffs and nothing significant has broken yet. Apart from Twitter's ability to generate revenue.

That was broken when he bought it.

It wasn't – certainly not to the extent that he's destroyed it.

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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> One day I created a tool that made it faster to download things from your work email that you might need if you were looking for a job: performance evaluations and that sort of thing. > I posted the tool on Slack so that my colleagues could also benefit from it if they needed to. One hour and four minutes later I was fired. Gosh, I wonder these two incidents are related? PROTIP: Don't distribute tools to facilitate…

Do employees have the right to access past performance reviews manually? If so, it's not "exfiltrating company property". Do you draw the line at automation?

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Across basically every company I've worked for - this is normal. And many of those companies are not 3k+ employee tech companies. Think 10 to 100 engineers. It's actually a requirement for many compliance certifications in the US - previously employed staff are not allowed access to your systems. If you're in an office - you can wait until you grab the employee and put them in a conference room to fire them before cu…

The only scenario where I see this being an even remotely reasonably request is if you think someone is a severe risk for harming your systems should they be laid off. In every large company I've worked for (including ones involving high security systems) the standard was that you'd give people a week notice, maybe two weeks of an impending layoff along with a decent chunk of severance. This way those people being la…

> It's working for a company that clearly does not trust its employees and treats them poorly. If you find yourself working for those kind of places frequently then please realize that it is not the norm and you should not try and normalize it.

You keep coming back to this - but even in companies where they do trust the employees - legal compliance is not a joke. If you're doing anything at all with customers who are in any of the following businesses...

Healthcare

Banking

Gov

Finance

Law practice

etc...

Then you turn off access when you fire an employee. Period. You can like them all you want, in which case you might go grab drinks with them afterwards - but you don't fuck around with access to your systems, because you lose your compliance certifications, or you get breached, and you lose a bunch of fucking money, you lose your enterprise contracts, and you yourself likely get fired.

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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The "hacking" hook is simply that their Macbook went into MDM lockdown mode. That's completely normal for companies at-scale, and I can understand why they'd want to lock the devices before laying people off. If the opposite had happened, they'd be writing an article about how Twitter failed to protect their files and angle it as a "they're running out of staff" article. I still don't really understand what there is…

Notoriously overstaffed based on what? The fact that you've heard this repeated in different ways over a long period of time?

Their cost in last 4-5 years grew faster than profits, their user base didn't increase that much, which means they have been hiring people that have less and less to do with turning profit to the company.

What musk is doing is, well, clown fiesta, but it's easy to look at twitter finances and see someone isn't making company's money

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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And yet the website is still here. If you want to critique the new leadership, than do it by all means. The actual employees seem to be doing a fine job at reduced-capacity though, and they've even managed to make a few changes I like. The point still stands - Twitter was operating way above it's means. If it actually requires 7500 engineers to keep running, then Twitter doesn't stand a chance anyways. Something tell…

It's not hard to maintain a frozen codebase with a skeleton crew. This is practiced routinely at many organizations during end-of-year holidays when many people take PTO. However, not many companies can survive with a permanent code-freeze, which is why companies don't just fire the "excess" folk who take PTO between December 25 and January 1, even though "things were fine" in that timeframe

Well muski boy probably fired many people that will be expensive to replace I heavily doubt most of developers in twitter work on its core functionality.

Many of them probably could be fired without much repercussions on company, the problem really is that there is no way in hell to judge that quickly and immediately start firing.

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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Based on the fact that they've gone through several waves of layoffs and nothing significant has broken yet. If anything, it's gotten better now that I don't need to log-in to scroll through someone's feed. Best change they've made in years, from where I'm standing. But generally, yeah. I've heard a lot of people question Twitter's opex and headcount over the years, from HN to daily standup meetings. Twitter is a big…

Why is Elon asking them to stay late and be "hardcore" if there is nothing to do? From article: "As soon as Musk actually took over, there were always three things that had to be done by yesterday." I wonder why...

I'd imagine that's because it's same way he ran his other companies.

And hell, hiring that many people at once is a lot of work to whoever left...

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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That was broken when he bought it.

It wasn't – certainly not to the extent that he's destroyed it.

Twitter had profitable years but it wasn't really profitable...

And him firing a bunch of people wasn't why companies stopped paying him (why would they care?), it was every other thing he did with the platform.

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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Had $5b in annual revenue and served hundreds of million of tweets daily?

Got itself valued at $44B with that revenue and with substantial annual losses. In a way, Twitter has been hugely successful.

Certainly to people that sold Musk stock lmao.

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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The vast vast vast majority of content news media generates is not like that, its drama farming and reposts. The actual investigative journalism is a very small minority.

So the statement "corporate media produces nothing of intellectual value" is false. I'm not defending the clickbait content a lot of outlets engage in but I'm concerned that if the "corporate media" disappeared tomorrow a lot of things would go uninvestigated. I'm also not sure that the number of stories published is a worthwhile metric either. Maybe one truly eye-opening investigative story is worth a hundred boring…

> So the statement "corporate media produces nothing of intellectual value" is false.

I'm pretty sure the original was hyperbole but more accurate statement would be "most of what corporate media produces have zero or negative value and is just facilitator for the clicks"

Re: Twitter engineer: I thought I’d been hacked. It turned out I’d been fired

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> One day I created a tool that made it faster to download things from your work email that you might need if you were looking for a job: performance evaluations and that sort of thing. > I posted the tool on Slack so that my colleagues could also benefit from it if they needed to. One hour and four minutes later I was fired. Gosh, I wonder these two incidents are related? PROTIP: Don't distribute tools to facilitate…

Oh, come on, "exfiltration of company property" when we're talking about personal performance evaluations is a pretty huge stretch. I'd characterize this as "Don't make cheeky slack posts alluding to the fact that you're looking for a new job and helping others do the same."
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