I thought the chrome extension didn't work at first, but you have to type " https://scihub.idk " rather then just "scihub.idk", which leads to a google search.
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DNS over Wikipedia
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Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#72Wikipedia editors have noticed that people use wikipedia for this purpose (finding the current location of sites) and so they have started to censor links for sites they don't want to encourage people to access. Right now this mostly impacts sites few would condone, like 8chan or kiwifarms. But in theory the policy applies to any site with illegal material so places like the pirate bay or scihub could have their link…
so it's just matter of time, and wikipedia is no better than google
Wikipedia has helped me in a couple of instances in which Google or DuckDuckGo couldn't, for example getting the latest onion or clearnet URL for a certain site.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#73This is actually better than the title suggests. I thought it might be something like automated edits to Wikipedia talk pages as a database or cache, which would be abusive. But actually it's using Wikipedia entries as a smart name search. This is read-only and a clever and legit use of the WP. If the browsers allowed the use of spaces in the domain name portion URLs it would be even more useful, but it's probably be…
On the other hand, Wikipedia pages seemingly get "vandalized" all the time and sometimes aren't corrected immediately.
Doesn't this create a situation where a bad actor could change the Wikipedia page for a `semi-popular-brand.com` url listing to something bad? Anyone who used `semi-popular-brand.idk` in that timeframe would land in the bad page. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#74Why Wikipedia though? Wikidata should be one to get this kind of data and all Wikipedia articles has Wikidata items. On top of that Wikidata even keep records of site name, like when someone change their site name.
I suppose the thought process is, more eyeballs are on corresponding Wikipedia pages for entities than are on Wikidata entries, so it's more likely to be corrected/up-to-date.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
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> How about this: try posting an URL for kiwifarms or stormfront or whatever right here, in this thread. See if it stays up. See who's willing to tolerate it. Man, I almost did. But people just get so irrationally angry about words on the internet nowadays that I decided against tempting fate. I don't need people trying to destroy my career because I don't irrationally hate the right people right now. Yes, Kiwi Farms…
> I don't need people trying to destroy my career because I don't irrationally hate the right people right now.
You don't "irrationally" hate them probably because you happen not to fit the target profile.
EDIT: And are you serious? You truly think that KiwiFarms is a quirky, harmless place that just collects info to do nothing with it, and at the same time believe that on HN you'd be targeted by people who'd try to ruin your life? What force keeps such nasty people off kiwifarms but allows their presence here, I wonder?
> Yes, Kiwi Farms exists and has information and opinions you might not like. It certainly has ones that I don't like. But at the end of the day, it's just words on the internet;
There's no such thing as "just words on the internet". Words express beliefs and intent. I take them seriously.
> the stuff about "organized harassment campaigns" and all that is a media lie.
Of course. The sort of people that compile elaborate profiles on people including personal information are some sort of enlightened beings that despite obsessively tracking down and compiling every embarrassing or weird thing about another person would never actually use that information for anything at all.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#76This is actually better than the title suggests. I thought it might be something like automated edits to Wikipedia talk pages as a database or cache, which would be abusive. But actually it's using Wikipedia entries as a smart name search. This is read-only and a clever and legit use of the WP. If the browsers allowed the use of spaces in the domain name portion URLs it would be even more useful, but it's probably be…
On the other hand, Wikipedia pages seemingly get "vandalized" all the time and sometimes aren't corrected immediately. Doesn't this create a situation where a bad actor could change the Wikipedia page for a `semi-popular-brand.com` url listing to something bad? Anyone who used `semi-popular-brand.idk` in that timeframe would land in the bad page. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.
This is possible with the DNS already which is why there have been various efforts to try to harden the protocol, to varying effect so far.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#77This is actually better than the title suggests. I thought it might be something like automated edits to Wikipedia talk pages as a database or cache, which would be abusive. But actually it's using Wikipedia entries as a smart name search. This is read-only and a clever and legit use of the WP. If the browsers allowed the use of spaces in the domain name portion URLs it would be even more useful, but it's probably be…
On the other hand, Wikipedia pages seemingly get "vandalized" all the time and sometimes aren't corrected immediately. Doesn't this create a situation where a bad actor could change the Wikipedia page for a `semi-popular-brand.com` url listing to something bad? Anyone who used `semi-popular-brand.idk` in that timeframe would land in the bad page. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.
Are you saying it's not a good idea to rely on domain lookup from a public wiki?
I think you might be onto something...
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#78We live in a distopia where one of the last search engines that returns real results related to anything the western mainstream "hidden forces" do not want you to be able to see is Yandex, a company located under a dictatorship. In 2022, the only way for a regular citizen to approximate what is reality, what is the "truth", is to look for information provided from the opposite side of any argument you're trying to un…
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Hackernews almost never actually deletes things (afaik they only do if there is a legal requirement or in exceptional circumstances after human review). Instead of being deleted comments/posts get marked as dead and hidden by default. You can enable viewing dead posts in your profile.
Basically they implement the strategy discussed here https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/moderation-is-differen...
Its the best of both worlds. People who get offended easily or just don't want to deal with low quality content can view the moderated content only. But if the moderation gets taken too far they can opt in to viewing the unmoderated content as well.
Also I'll bite on your challenge https://kiwifarms.net/ is the current URL.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#79This is actually better than the title suggests. I thought it might be something like automated edits to Wikipedia talk pages as a database or cache, which would be abusive. But actually it's using Wikipedia entries as a smart name search. This is read-only and a clever and legit use of the WP. If the browsers allowed the use of spaces in the domain name portion URLs it would be even more useful, but it's probably be…
On the other hand, Wikipedia pages seemingly get "vandalized" all the time and sometimes aren't corrected immediately. Doesn't this create a situation where a bad actor could change the Wikipedia page for a `semi-popular-brand.com` url listing to something bad? Anyone who used `semi-popular-brand.idk` in that timeframe would land in the bad page. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding.
Maybe an enhancement would be to have it look at the edit history and use the most recent URL that has remained on the page for at least X hours/days
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#80> If you Google "Piratebay", the first search result is a fake "thepirate-bay.org" (with a dash) but the Wikipedia article lists the right one. — shpx I'm laughing in pain. I detest google so much for being so bad at its only job - finding stuff - merely to maximize $$$. Google was such a great product and genuinely serving humanity. Now it's only a shell of its former self.
Google is the worst search engine besides every other one