Bad information is like viruses. Right?. So what we need is an immune-system. Bad information will still be there but it is prevented (to an extent) from multiplying. What would an immune-system for online information look like?
DNS over Wikipedia
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Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#62Why Wikipedia though? Wikidata should be one to get this kind of data and all Wikipedia articles has Wikidata items. On top of that Wikidata even keep records of site name, like when someone change their site name.
I think a lot of people conflate Wikipedia with the larger Wikimedia organization.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#63We live in a distopia where one of the last search engines that returns real results related to anything the western mainstream "hidden forces" do not want you to be able to see is Yandex, a company located under a dictatorship. In 2022, the only way for a regular citizen to approximate what is reality, what is the "truth", is to look for information provided from the opposite side of any argument you're trying to un…
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> YES, we as a society have decided that some forms of discourse are to be shunned.
"We as the cultural elite have decided what you may read."
> No one is confused about what kiwifarms stands for.
This is demonstrably false. You have invented or swallowed a narrative about kiwifarms and are working to prevent anyone else from discovering the truth for themselves.
A different narrative is that Kiwifarms operated within the law. False accusations were made against it. CloudFlair believed those accusations and stopped protecting it from illegal network attacks. Illegal network attacks knocked it offline for a while.
Which of these narratives is true, and how could we find out?
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#64This is neat, but I expected something completely different from the name. I already had my hopes up for doing VPN/IP over DNS over Wikipedia.
Frustratingly, beyond not actually offering that (which is entirely reasonable), it does not even seem to be using DNS for the implementation of what it does.
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#65It redirects to URL entries in the infobox (present in many wiki pages) associated with the body of your entered URL (ending with ‘.idk’). What it does not do is prevent anyone from temporarily editing the associated wikipedia page and phishing you into an attacker-controlled website.
I feel like that is an acceptable risk for something called "DNS over Wikipedia".
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#66We live in a distopia where one of the last search engines that returns real results related to anything the western mainstream "hidden forces" do not want you to be able to see is Yandex, a company located under a dictatorship. In 2022, the only way for a regular citizen to approximate what is reality, what is the "truth", is to look for information provided from the opposite side of any argument you're trying to un…
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> How about this: try posting an URL for kiwifarms or stormfront or whatever right here, in this thread. See if it stays up. See who's willing to tolerate it.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#67We live in a distopia where one of the last search engines that returns real results related to anything the western mainstream "hidden forces" do not want you to be able to see is Yandex, a company located under a dictatorship. In 2022, the only way for a regular citizen to approximate what is reality, what is the "truth", is to look for information provided from the opposite side of any argument you're trying to un…
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Absolutely, even the so-called "free speech" platforms like Truth Social will ban you for saying the wrong things. Moral absolutism never really works out.
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#68> If you Google "Piratebay", the first search result is a fake "thepirate-bay.org" (with a dash) but the Wikipedia article lists the right one. — shpx I'm laughing in pain. I detest google so much for being so bad at its only job - finding stuff - merely to maximize $$$. Google was such a great product and genuinely serving humanity. Now it's only a shell of its former self.
Google’s approach is not, in general, capable of handling adversarial inputs. This isn’t a Google problem as much as Google is currently losing the SEO war.
Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is a function of game theory akin to Prisoner's Dilemma. If all the news sources are rather centrist (i.e., they all "cooperate"), then no one gains or loses audiences because of bias. This is a good strategy when publishing is expensive. However, as the costs of publishing drop, it becomes profitable to shave off niche (smaller) audiences, with biased publication. This begins the defection phase of the PD…
This makes a lot of sense. Here is a classic paper that tests a model like this on US data: https://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/biasmeas.pdf We estimate a model of newspaper demand that incorporates slant explicitly, estimate the slant that would be chosen if newspapers independently maximized their own profits, and compare these profit-maximizing points with firms’ actual choices. We find that readers have a…
Very cool. Thanks for sharing. Since it is a like minded result, I obviously have a significant preference for it. (Unlike the sibling to your comment, which was obviously produced by someone from the other team)
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Re: DNS over Wikipedia
#70Is it actually DNS, or is there a custom name-to-IP lookup process going on? Also, am I just needlessly splitting hairs?
Wikipedia is acting as a system for domain name retrieval.
Right, but DNS doesn't retrieve domain names. It uses domain names to retrieve other information.
In DNS, domain names are the keys. In this system, domain names are the values.