Maybe all us angry nerds should OCCUPY something. Something big, related to SOPA. It would be cool to see EFF type concerns channeled into that movement.
Paul Graham: SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day
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#42PG, if you're reading this, I don't know which list you saw, but here's one with SOPA supporters that is probably the most comprehensive: http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/the-439-organizations-s...
Some of these companies are just so random... Why, for instance, does Adidas, L'Oreal, American Apparel, Rite Aid, Pfizer, etc. even have a stance on SOPA? I was rather disconcerted to see that Elsevier was on this list :(
The push for these bills really started years ago when pharma companies were desperately trying to prevent the purchase of drugs from Canada and other countries. The entertainment aspect is rather new and actually somewhat secondary.
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#43Gauntlet officially thrown down. I respect PG even more for taking a stand on this. Now we need to figure out the best way to get people opposed to SOPA on a grand scale. No disrespect to the HN community, but I wonder how much of an impact we really have had thus far. Tumblr, Reddit, and Mozilla have done a fairly good job of this, but they are not large enough to do it on their own. Next we need Google and Facebook to get more involved as I think that would make awareness of this issue skyrocket. Any thoughts on pragmatic approaches to getting the public more involved?
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#44Thanks for standing up for us all, pg.
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#45PG, if you're reading this, I don't know which list you saw, but here's one with SOPA supporters that is probably the most comprehensive: http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/the-439-organizations-s...
Actually, if you read the article and linked letter, you will see that this list does not seem to come from any explicit support of SOPA. Instead, anyone on this list and not on the official judiciary list linked above comes from a letter[1] not stating support for SOPA but rather petitioning Congress to "enact carefully balanced rogue sites legislation this year."
From the linked article: "This list is derived from two sources: the official list (pdf) of SOPA supporters from the Judiciary Committee’s website, and a letter (pdf) addressed to Congress from the Global Intellectual Property Center, which is an affiliate of the US Chamber of Commerce."
I thought this deserved clarification.
[1] http://www.theglobalipcenter.com/sites/default/files/pressre...
Re: Paul Graham: SOPA Supporting Companies No Longer Allowed At YC Demo Day
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here is the one directly from the SOPA .gov site: http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Rouge%20Websites/SOPA%20Su...
Take a look at the front page of the committee's web site: >Markup Shows Strong Support for SOPA (12/16/2011) >SOPA Has Strong Support (12/15/2011) >Smith: Critics Continue to Spread Lies about SOPA (12/14/2011) This is about as divorced from reality as you could possibly get. If this country is not the definition of a corporate oligarchy I don't know what is.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mastercard should be there, too. They even had a "witness" at the first hearing. Can we get a list for the companies supporting Protect IP, too? We don't want that one to slip past us, either.
Mastercard (and Visa) are both on the PDF I linked to above.. http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Rouge%20Websites/SOPA%20Su... EDIT: Just realized this was the same as the GP link.
But not Discover. Interesting.
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#48Wow, surprising to see Visa on that list. Here's a direct link to the list on the techcrunch article. http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Rouge%20Websites/SOPA%20Su...
Mastercard should be there, too. They even had a "witness" at the first hearing. Can we get a list for the companies supporting Protect IP, too? We don't want that one to slip past us, either.
Why the quotes around the word witness?
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#49PG, if you're reading this, I don't know which list you saw, but here's one with SOPA supporters that is probably the most comprehensive: http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/the-439-organizations-s...
I love how Xerox supports SOPA. I mean, their entire company was founded around a device that facilitates copyright infringement.
Leading to the Copyright Act of 1976, BTW.
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#50pg, thank you so much for doing this. You rock.