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Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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A prison term for not registering with some bureaucratic state agency? Why? The “California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education”? This is indistinguishable from parody.

Why is it unreasonable to have people in a government agency to address fraudulent colleges and stuff? Do you feel the same way about the bureau of consumer protection in the US FTC?

You don't have to register or get a license from the FTC to open a business. At least I hope you don't.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA.

I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA. I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

What do you wish they could have done differently?

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Not sure what to make of this, but Austen, who is normally a prolific tweeter, hasn't tweeted about this yet [0]. I have gotten used to CEOs tweeting apologetic stuff when this happens. Perhaps this is norm should be bucked? I don't know. I just note that Austen is going against the grain. EDIT: missed this: "In a now-deleted tweet posted earlier today, Allred quoted a prior statement of gratitude for employees pushi…

The "attacked by all sides" comment is quite bizarre. Every pain the company experienced was self-inflicted.

They lied about how many students get jobs, which damaged their reputation and is a source of active lawsuits.

They dodged California regulators and then lied to students about it. This invalidated every ISA in California before 2020.

They launched an unpaid intern program, which created a backlash in the tech community.

They told students they couldn't discharge their debt, which was a lie that go them in even more legal trouble.

I could go on and on, but the recurring pattern is them doing something reprehensible and the "attack" is "getting caught."

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I was a bootcamp grad in 2013. Myself and my classmates are now mostly filling Staff+ roles, many working in FAANG level companies. So, yes, many people have hired bootcampers and had a good experience.

Filling out staff roles at FANG? Not at the FANG company I work at. I’ve never met a single boot camp person, and absolutely zero staff engineers are boot camp grads that I know of, unless they scrubbed it from their LinkedIn and never talk about it.

> I’ve never met a single boot camp person, and absolutely zero staff engineers are boot camp grads that I know of, unless they scrubbed it from their LinkedIn and never talk about it.

This comment has the same energy as the person I once worked with who told me (a lesbian) with total confidence that they'd never met a gay person before. Just because you aren't aware doesn't mean it's not happening all around you.

It's very common for graduates to not talk about it, precisely because of the attitudes you see in these comments. It's easily left off LinkedIn because the experience only lasts a few months. And after you've had some success at the first job, it's not relevant anyway.

How many people do you know in the industry without CS degrees? A lot of those folks came in through bootcamps, whether they cop to it or not.

I considered it a shameful secret for years, and it's only now as I approach my tenth anniversary in the industry that I've become more open about it -- I'm confident my work now speaks for itself.

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I hire them and give them a task somewhere between support engineer that executes well documented code snippets in run books and junior engineer that does very basic CRUD web app development. Making internal dashboards for the customer success team, etc. Give them about 32 hours of work a week and 8 hours of tutorials on other things. Build them up from there. I still lose about 35% of them. A combo of firing for lac…

> I still lose about 35% of them. A combo of firing for lack of ability and the devs getting upset and leaving when promotions and raises come slow. I've had similar problems. We've had some bootcamp grads who were good to work with and acknowledged that they were still very junior. We've also had some bootcamp grads who felt entitled to mid-range to senior compensation after their first year, while still getting the…

> It's hard to explain that, no, I will not give them a raise to match what we're paying people with 5+ years of experience after their bootcamp promised them $200K comp after a couple years in the industry.

I dunno, I think what you have right there is pretty good explanation wise, haha.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA. I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

> AMA.

Were you aware of YC before attending Lambda (ie, did the association lend credibility to Lambda) or did you find YC after attending?

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA. I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

Why weren't lambda grads able to get good jobs? I think that was the main controversy. Was it the instruction or what went wrong there?

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Has anyone had success hiring bootcamp grads? I’ve interviewed dozens and their resume will say something like “Fellow at [bootcamp]” or “Instructor at [bootcamp]”, and it turns out they made a simple programming 101 app and taught a 1hr intro to JavaScript class. None have ever passed an initial screening by me for mid level dev jobs, but I’m curious if anyone else has hired a bootcamp grad for a junior role and had…

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Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I graduated Lambda School and currently have been hired and work in a software position. I don't encourage people to go to... Bloomtech they're calling it now. AMA. I was earlier in the life of Lambda. I got what I needed out of it but I watched a lot who didn't.

Why weren't lambda grads able to get good jobs? I think that was the main controversy. Was it the instruction or what went wrong there?

If you go on the HN Algolia, there are a lot of posts from students and people involved with Lambda over the years that might paint a clearer picture of what kind of dysfunction was taking place at the company.
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