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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by Taurenking »

atemerev wrote: post #557
xienze wrote: post #267

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> and my wife was 38 at the time of conception. This sounds obvious, but apparently isn’t to a lot of younger people. 38 is considered quite old to start having children (yes it happens, but it’s called a “geriatric pregnancy” for a reason), and I’m sure it contributed to the difficulties conceiving. A lot of young folks have been convinced that child birth can be put off more or less indefinitely while you pursue a…

Well here where I live, the median age for a woman giving birth is 42. The old normal is not normal anymore.

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Post by themagician »

lemming wrote: post #772
themagician wrote: post #566

Whenever I read about things like decreasing sperm counts or increases in cancer I always think of the same phrase, "Everything is chemicals." It just really doesn't surprise me knowing how little evaluation is done on chemicals and materials throughout the supply chain. I believe the period from 1900 to around 2100 will be looked at as this horrible era where we filled our own ecosystem with an almost unimaginable a…

So you create a product, put it out and have it do unimaginable damage, then pay for the health and environmental damage you did Or not. How often have companies actually had to pay for anything like the actual cost of the damage they have caused to the environment? Are there any cases when they have had to? They sometimes have to compensate a few of the humans involved, but never anything more general than that, and…

Oh, I know. Compensation is the best case scenario. Much more likely is that the entity ultimately responsible doesn't even exist by the time the issue is discovered.

I don't know what the answer is here either. The EU is getting much more aggressive about this, but it's already getting to the point that to bring a new product to market strictly within the law essentially costs infinite dollars.

Aviation still uses leaded fuel and we KNOW how bad it is. But the economic consequence of fully eliminating it is still too great. Literally the one chemical that we know with certainty that there is no safe level of exposure to, is still getting distributed through the air all day every day.

It's funny to me the way Prop65 turned out in some ways. When people were told just how bad absolutely everything is, people actually care less. And now the same thing is happening across the EU in a broad range of categories. Everything has at least 3 or 4 warnings on it. Most people just ignore them completely or look for a product with no warnings—which is probably just lying.

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Post by TylerE »

dham wrote: post #769
DevX101 wrote: post #158

The thesis of the book 'Countdown' is that this is largely due to widespread plastic and other endocrine disrupting chemicals. I believe this is one of the most important risks to humanity, after climate change, and global war. So far, I've taken some lifestyle changes to combat this: 1) Threw out all of my teflon cooking pans 2) Refuse to consume food in heated plastics 3) Throw out teabags (they have plastics). Use…

Just use glass. I never understood plastic containers. Basically just use shit that existed 50 years ago for food. Iron pans, store in glass, butter, lard. If you spill stuff on a couch just live with it. Buy leather. Too many things are made because people are lazy. If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy.

Glass is expensive to make (and recycle!), heavy, physically larger (since your container is, now, say, 0.250" thick instead of 0.025"), and much more likely to break during shipping, and presents an injury risk when broken.

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CadmiumYellow wrote: post #573
bergenty wrote: post #442

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You may not like to hear this but women having a kid past 30 introduces a lot of potential problems and deficiencies in the child.

Women have been having kids past 30 since the dawn of humanity. The only difference is that now women tend to be older at the time of their FIRST pregnancy. Before the modern era women would start having kids in their late teens or early 20s and continue doing so until menopause in many causes, so that's up til 45-55. Plenty of women are perfectly capable of having healthy kids past 30 and even past 40.

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Post by berjin »

Jemm wrote: post #218

Waiting for the studies on how endocrine-disrupting chemicals affect children and gender identity.

It wouldn't be surprising if something is going on. Shanna Swan's research shows that male genitals (penis size and 'taint' size) are more feminine when the baby is exposed to phthalates in the womb as the levels of testosterone are lower and this leads to impaired development.

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Post by Aachen »

DevX101 wrote: post #392
propogandist wrote: post #383

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which tea bags don't do this?

I wouldn't use tea bags at all. Use a metal loose leaf tea infuser and buy loose leaf tea. I use this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X50NUU4

The "use jquery" answer for tea bags. "How do I do X with tea bags?" "Don't use tea bags, use this better thing!"

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Post by tomp »

lisper wrote: post #744
DevX101 wrote: post #158

The thesis of the book 'Countdown' is that this is largely due to widespread plastic and other endocrine disrupting chemicals. I believe this is one of the most important risks to humanity, after climate change, and global war. So far, I've taken some lifestyle changes to combat this: 1) Threw out all of my teflon cooking pans 2) Refuse to consume food in heated plastics 3) Throw out teabags (they have plastics). Use…

> This is an emergency No, this is hope. Converting the entire biomass of earth into homo sapiens is not the goal.

Sperm count is falling in wild animals as well.

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Post by themusicgod1 »

gadflyinyoureye wrote: post #767
_8j50 wrote: post #532

Does this just mean population growth will slow down? Isn't that a good thing if so?

It already has a long time ago. Most of the world’s population is going to contract hard in the next 15 years. Looks at China. They have far too many old people relative to young. It’s getting worse. Few people to pay for the elderly let alone care for them.

> They have far too many old people relative to young. It’s getting worse.

This is not a "it's getting worse" thing...this is unambiguously a good thing. China has too many people in it, and the earth cannot sustain 8 billion people

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Post by themusicgod1 »

Sperm is not a limiting factor of anything, and even if it plumets by 99% it still won't be a limiting factor of anything.

Pornhub is living proof that the world overproduces sperm by - a single, unpopular video probably wastes more sperm than would be necessary to cause overpopulation

this is a nothingburger

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Post by PakG1 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #696
dionidium wrote: post #661

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My mother-in-law who is in her 60s thinks she's "too young" to be called grandma. She's being a little bit tongue-in-cheek, but I routinely hear people say, "oh he was so young" after some 65-year-old celebrity dies of a heart attack. Increasingly, I just have no idea what's going on in people's heads when they think about age. Sixty is not "young." Thirty-five is not "young" with respect to fertility. People need to…

Yep. I'm in the latter half of my 50s and defintely don't feel young, at least physically. 60 is getting old. Anthing past 70 is a gift, IMO.

And yet, we have presidential candidates in their 80s and Americans seriously don't prefer younger candidates to win their primaries for whatever reason. Something is really messed up there.
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