maybe dont wash them that often
Gut epithelial barrier damage caused by dishwasher detergents and rinse aids
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#12maybe dont wash them that often
I know a guy who washed his dishes, and he died
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yah, it seemed the same to me. I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer. If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
It is talking about professional dishwashers like the ones used in restaurants. So if you dine out on a regular basis you're probably getting exposed to this stuff even if you don't use it at home. PS I have no chemical expertise, but the article singles out alcohol ethoxylates as the cause of this damage. And while I don't use rinse aid in my home dishwasher, my Cascade dishwasher pods list "Isotridecanol Ethoxylate…
Indeed, the study seems to conclude that it's not rinsed off completely and residue remains on the "clean" dishes.
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#14Ironically, the summary isn't as good as the "Key Messages" section at the bottom:
> * Professional dishwasher rinse aid causes cellular cytotoxicity and directly impaired barrier integrity of gut epithelial cells by damaging TJ and AJ expressions in daily exposed concentrations. > * The underlying mechanisms of epithelial barrier disruption in response to rinse aid were cell death in 1:10,000 dilutions and epithelial barrier opening in 1:40,000 dilutions. > * The alcohol ethoxylates, an ingredient of the rinse aid that remains on washed dishware, caused the gut epithelial inflammation and barrier damage.
It appears to be the rinse aid when used in professional dishwashers utilized in restaurants, etc, due to high concentration of the rinse aid contaminating the "clean" dishes.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yah, it seemed the same to me. I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer. If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
It is talking about professional dishwashers like the ones used in restaurants. So if you dine out on a regular basis you're probably getting exposed to this stuff even if you don't use it at home. PS I have no chemical expertise, but the article singles out alcohol ethoxylates as the cause of this damage. And while I don't use rinse aid in my home dishwasher, my Cascade dishwasher pods list "Isotridecanol Ethoxylate…
If I remember chem class correctly, -nol indicates an alcohol (ethanol, methanol...)
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#17huh, I didn't know home and commercial rinse aids were any different?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yah, it seemed the same to me. I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer. If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
It is talking about professional dishwashers like the ones used in restaurants. So if you dine out on a regular basis you're probably getting exposed to this stuff even if you don't use it at home. PS I have no chemical expertise, but the article singles out alcohol ethoxylates as the cause of this damage. And while I don't use rinse aid in my home dishwasher, my Cascade dishwasher pods list "Isotridecanol Ethoxylate…
Many years ago I worked as a skivvy in a hotel kitchen. We never used any detergent for the crockery, it just used extremely hot water. The dishes seemed very clean and they dried very rapidly.
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#19Oh wait....cue gluten-allergy
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yah, it seemed the same to me. I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer. If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
It is talking about professional dishwashers like the ones used in restaurants. So if you dine out on a regular basis you're probably getting exposed to this stuff even if you don't use it at home. PS I have no chemical expertise, but the article singles out alcohol ethoxylates as the cause of this damage. And while I don't use rinse aid in my home dishwasher, my Cascade dishwasher pods list "Isotridecanol Ethoxylate…
If the purpose of the substance is to make the dishes dry faster it makes sense that it would not be fully rinsed off at the end of the cycle. In theory you would hope that they would evaporate off of the dishes, but that leads to air quality issues, so all in all these rinse aids seem problematic.